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Magazine feature on the way


Hi all,

Glad to see so many other people out there love what is one of my favourite movies! So much so in fact that I am currently working on a lengthy feature on the film for Dark Side magazine in the UK.
So far I've spoken to producer Peter Fetterman, director Richard Loncraine and composer Colin Towns, and have also tracked down the child actors who played both Katie and Olivia Rudge - among others.
I am also trying my utmost to get to the bottom of who exactly owns the rights to the thing, as wouldn't it be great to see this classic restored to full glory? I'm even looking at possibly putting on a one-off screening of the film in 2018 to celebrate the 40th anniversary of its release - with the likes of Colin Towns already having agreed to attend for a Q&A should I be able to pull it off.

Anyways, the feature should be published around April, so please keep posting to the message board as I always love getting other people's take on the film!

PS A quick trivia tidbit to whet the appetite from my research so far - the original adaptation and first draft script had two different titles not listed on the imdb page - The Link and When The Wind Blows

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Wow! Fantastic news!
I can't wait to read your article in Dark Side Magazine!!!

"So far I've spoken to producer Peter Fetterman, director Richard Loncraine and composer Colin Towns"

Did you interview Peter Hannan who did an awesome beautiful looking cinematography on the movie?
He worked with Loncraine again on his tv movies and also "Brimstone and treacle" and "The Missionary".
Also did you interview the production designer Brian Morris who worked with Michael Mann, Alan Parker and Richard Loncraine on "Full Circle" and then after "Wimbledon", "Firewall", "My one and only" and "Ruth & Alex"?
Do you know if Colin Towns is going to re-release on cd his famous soundtrack?? Especially since it's out of print for years...


" have also tracked down the child actors who played both Katie and Olivia Rudge - among others."

Sophie Ward is a fine actress but i don't know if she has seen the movie, i remember her saying that shooting the disturbing opening scene was lots of fun!
Samantha Gates...she has only one real scene in the film but what a scene!!...so striking haunting creepy presence!


"I am also trying my utmost to get to the bottom of who exactly owns the rights to the thing, as wouldn't it be great to see this classic restored to full glory?"

It seems that Peter Fetterman Richard Loncraine and Colin Towns all of them would like the film to be released in a good shape (Blu Ray, at least!) but the companies who produced the movie back in 1976 maybe disappeared?...so it's an issue of who owns the rights, IMDB says that the film's companies are:

Production Companies
Canadian Film Development Corporation (CFDC)
Classic
Famous Players
Fetter Productions
Merit


"I'm even looking at possibly putting on a one-off screening of the film in 2018 to celebrate the 40th anniversary of its release - with the likes of Colin Towns already having agreed to attend for a Q&A should I be able to pull it off."

Great idea!
I would love a theatrical re-release of this film, remastered in 2K/4K...i've never seen "Full Circle" on the big screen, unfortunately.
Also a Blu Ray release would be awesome!!! With interviews of Loncraine, Colin Towns, Peter Hannan, Peter Straub, Tom Conti, Mia Farrow...an audio commentary from Richard Loncraine would be fantastic too!!

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Thanks for your kind words/support - I shall do my best!

I am going to be meeting a number of the crew soon to tour the locations in Holland Park, with the hope of being allowed into the house that was used for filming :-)

I don't want to give too much away (as you won't buy/read the feature!!) but here are a couple of other bits for you:

1. You are right - neither Sophie Ward or Samantha Gates have actually seen the film. In fact both said the same thing - too young when it came out, then the film just disappeared. Samantha though did say her children have recently spotted the film on youtube! Peter Fetterman actually carried around a picture of Samantha (along with a cassette of music from Towns) as a way of trying to raise funding - we've got the music, we've got the 'evil kid', give us your cash :-)

2. I'm getting my hands on both the original draft and the finished script in a week or so, which I'm eager to scan to see if any material was cut. Richard Loncraine was sure there was nothing edited out as they couldn't afford to film stuff they didn't use, but I have found an on-set photo in an archive vault of a scene with Keir Dullea playing backgammon at a men's club which certainly is NOT in the version I've seen. I also found a review from Alexander Walker back in 1978 where he wrote that Dullea's demise was 'a lot clearer than in the version he saw previously'.

The whole thing is like unraveling a mystery in itself :-)

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"Thanks for your kind words/support - I shall do my best!"

Thanks! how many pages are you allowed to deliver on this film, for the magazine?



"I am going to be meeting a number of the crew soon to tour the locations in Holland Park, with the hope of being allowed into the house that was used for filming :-)"

fantastic! probably some nice pictures for your article in the magazine!
I don't know if the house is still there, i guess the inside of it was a real location and not a set/stage...this house has a real "presence" in the film thanks to Loncraine's skillful use of widescreen ratio, Peter Hannan's beautiful lightning and Brian Morris's work.

"You are right - neither Sophie Ward or Samantha Gates have actually seen the film."

That's fun because Sophie Ward acted in some fantasy and horror movies in her career, like "the hunger", "book of blood" and "young Sherlock Holmes"!

"Samantha though did say her children have recently spotted the film on youtube!"

Lovely!!
One of the videos available on Youtube isn't good (not the right widescreen framing) but has been seen by many many people (more than 200 000 views)
I don't know what Loncraine thinks of it, he must be a bit sad that his film isn't available in a proper picture/audio quality, at least until now...


"Peter Fetterman actually carried around a picture of Samantha (along with a cassette of music from Towns) as a way of trying to raise funding - we've got the music, we've got the 'evil kid', give us your cash :-) "

Yes, an original way to raise money, isn't it? I've read that both Loncraine and Farrow wanted to make this movie especially BECAUSE of Colin Town's music.

" I'm getting my hands on both the original draft and the finished script in a week or so, which I'm eager to scan to see if any material was cut."

Great! Let us know (or at least in your article!) about the differences with the film's theatrical cut...have you read Peter Straub's book? It is quite different from the movie, the ending, among others, or the past of Magnus's character. The book is pretty creepy but i prefer the changes Loncraine and his screenwriters did for the movie...the film is more mysterious somewhat, like its powerful ambiguous ending.

"Richard Loncraine was sure there was nothing edited out"

hmmm...i own the Films Illustrated Magazine from Summer 1977 (with a Mia Farrow cover) where he said that he cut a "bedroom scene" between Farrow and Conti, he "shortened a death scene" and "clarified another one" (Keir Dullea's character)
I remember reading a french review from the magazine L'Ecran Fantastique after the Cannes screening where the reviewer was writing "we don't know what happens to Keir Dullea's character, he suddenly disappears from the story)

"they couldn't afford to film stuff they didn't use"

yes, i remember Loncraine talking about that in a Podcast a few years ago...it was a low budget it seems, and they didn't have much money for the marketing also.
How did the film work in the UK?
In France where i live the film did a decent but not great box office, more than 260 000 admissions in the whole country...it was helped a bit because it won the Grand Prize at a quite famous horror film festival here which was named "Avoriaz"...William Friedkin was the President of this Jury this year, there were also Sergio Leone and Alain Delon in the Jury.

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I have that Films Illustrated magazine - and also listened to the podcast where Richard seemed to contradict himself. The way I see it is that it is pretty difficult asking someone to remember what happened 40 years ago!
I think that stuff would have been filmed and cut (or at least scripted and cut) - I'm hoping the script clears that up - when I see it. The other thing of course is that there is a track on Towns' soundtrack entitled 'Love Scene' which suggests there MUST have been something planned between Farrow and Conti - Colin couldn't remember though when I asked him about it.

The house certainly exists - it is 3 Holland Park in London. I have visited the outside and taken a couple of photos. People obviously live there but I have still written to the owners asking for a look around as that would be pretty cool. Whether it happens though is another matter entirely.....

I have read the book - there are a few elements I like better than the film, and the fact the characters are fleshed out a bit more, but to be honest I prefer the majority of the changes that were made (Mark no longer 'related' to Magnus, Magnus not being the father of Olivia etc). What is weird though is reading it after seeing the film I just kept visualising the likes of Mia Farrow etc as I was reading it - shows how good a job they made of it I suppose.

The film did not do well in the UK - it opened at one cinema in London (the Plaza off Piccadilly Circus) on May 4 1978. I'll have the exact box office totals by the time the piece is done.



Dark Side magazine usually give over a good chunk of space to their features, so I've been tasked with about 5,000 words and plenty of images, so it should be good. On the matter of images, Samantha Gates sent over a photo her mum took of her with Mia Farrow on set, which I'm pretty sure no one has seen before (well, no one outside her family anyway!).

Thanks again,

Simon


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"The other thing of course is that there is a track on Towns' soundtrack entitled 'Love Scene' which suggests there MUST have been something planned between Farrow and Conti - Colin couldn't remember though when I asked him about it."

I really hope Colin Towns's soundtrack will be re-released, the LP and CD are missing some of the film's tracks...we need another release, complete soundtrack!
It's one of my favourite soundtrack...the use on the last scene for example, pure genius, stunning beauty here.


"The film did not do well in the UK"

Richard Loncraine must be a bit surprised that there's a "cult" built around "Full Circle" for years now, many people like you and i who are deeply impressed and moved by his film...especially since it didn't really make money in theaters back in 1978!
I was thinking about the issue of who currently owns the rights...the film was shown HD on Sony Movie Channel and NetFlix, if i remember well, these past years...so maybe they have the rights? or just for the tv?



"On the matter of images, Samantha Gates sent over a photo her mum took of her with Mia Farrow on set, which I'm pretty sure no one has seen before (well, no one outside her family anyway!)."

Nice!


"Thanks again,

Simon"

Are you the Simon who wrote this?:


http://www.movieramblings.com/2016/12/16/from-the-vault-full-circle-1978/

Very nice article, i've posted it a few days ago on my Facebook page and my Facebook "Je veux le Blu Ray/Dvd de "Full Circle" page!
I agree of course 100% with what you've written here...one of the strenghts of this film, quite unlike many horror movies, is its melancholy mood, mature and character driven storytelling...i think it's one great character study and certainly one of the underrated gems of 70's cinema. The ending scene/shot is one of the more striking and unsettling i've seen, it really stays with you...

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That is indeed me - I penned that article as a way of getting my creative juices flowing!

You are right about Sony - they merely held the tv rights after buying them off a company that went bankrupt.

I'll check back in when I have more details regarding the article etc - if you send a link to the facebook group/page I shall be sure to 'like' it!

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"if you send a link to the facebook group/page I shall be sure to 'like' it!"

Your Movie Ramblings article has been posted on the two FB pages about the film, mine ("Je veux le Blu Ray/Dvd de "Full Circle") and another one made by others fans ("The Haunting of Julia (aka: Full Circle)" )...i've also sent you a private message on your FB page when i found on line your article early January, but i don't know if you received it!
Of course when your Dark Side feature will be published i will post something about it on my page!

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This is so great! Thank you so much for taking your time to put all of this together. I can't wait for that issue of DS :)

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It's hard to believe that this movie is already 40 years old. Ok! Ok! I have done the math. I'm just always amazed by how fast time goes by!
I never saw the OP's magazine article. I do hope that this goes to DVD.
I do have an old copy on VHS. I can also see iton YouTube.... at least I use to be able to. You never know if you will be able to see certain films. They are always taking things down over there.

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