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Carry on England censored version


any one seen this
if you have the new itv box set of the carry ons
its on there
2, diffrent verions of carry on england

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What's the difference between the two versions?

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when the film was made in 1976
2 diffrent verisons ware edited to gether mainly
the topless seasns are intact
some times the makers of the carry did this to wind up the distributers
if you get the red carry on box
it as this version
with the tv series
and the un censored version

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Thanks for the reply, I got Carry On England on dvd with the bi weekly issues that came with a magazine too about five years ago. When the films are all together the spines make up a picture of the characters but funnily enough Carry On columbus wasn not included for some reason.

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carry on columbus
wasant part of the origanal series thats why its not inclouled in the box sets
again if you get the red box set you will have the tv series and the unlreast
verison of carry on england

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carry on columbus
wasant part of the origanal series thats why its not inclouled in the box sets


Actually, "Columbus" was released by a different production company. That is why it's not included in the box set.
It's still considered a Carry On film and part if the series though.

Kind of like the Friday The 13th series of films as the first 8 (I think) were released by Paramount, but the ones after that by New Line.

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The other version wasn't actually unreleased. This was the first Carry On to receive an "AA" certificate (equal to a 15, more or less). When it performed really badly the film was swiftly pulled and re-edited to get an "A" certificate, not that it helped business much.

The main differences are that most of the nudity is cut from the "Trousers. That's all" parade seen, apart from a very brief establishing shot.

And an alternate take is used for the scene where WD tells PM he couldn't tell a Bristol from a Heinkel. In the original "AA" cut, and common DVD cut, PM says "I know a Fokker when I see one". In the "A" cut he says "Bristols usually come in pairs".

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Actually an AA rating was more the equivalent of a modern 12A in that anyone could see this film but if they were under 14 they had to be accompanied by an adult.







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Actually an AA rating was more the equivalent of a modern 12A in that anyone could see this film but if they were under 14 they had to be accompanied by an adult.


I'm not sure where you are, but I believe that it was only in Scotland (where I am) where accompanied children were allowed. My family were pretty big film-goers so I saw quite a lot, but did get caught out while on holiday in England and not being allowed in, to a Double Bill of Butch Cassidy + Prime of Miss Jean Brody, both of which I'd seen, because PoMJB was an "AA".

Some individual councils may have relaxed their rule, but in general, outside Scotland, an "AA" was equivalent to a current "15", while in Scotland it was rather more like a 12.

There may have been changes in its status at some point though, when I was old enough for it not to matter (late 1970's), but in the early 70s, there were quite a few films that I was allowed to see because they scraped through as an "AA", which I don't think would have had the certificate not been stricter in most of the country.

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I'm not sure I quite made myself clear, what I meant was an AA was closer to a 12A rather than a 15 because an AA certificate didn't stop young people seeing a movie, instead it simply advised partental discretion and stopped unaccompanied kids seeing it which is what the modern 12A certificate does.

At least here in England X was originally the equivalent of the 15 in that you had to be 14 to get in, however by the time I started seeing movies it had been bumped up to 18 or over.

If I'm mistaken I apologise.






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Hi hallogallo,

No need to apologize; I'm just kind of interested in the history of film classification.

I'm pretty sure that in most of the UK, an "AA" didn't allow children, accompanied or not. I think that was what would have hurt a Carry On. Not so much children going alone as producers feeling families couldn't go, stopping many parents as well as children.

I'll have to check the BBFC site; I think they have a good history. But I did do a quick Wikipedia search, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_British_film_certificates) which seems to confirm that it was a strict age limit rather than at parental discretion, although it fails to point out the Scottish difference, and isn't always the most reliable source.

I hope I've got it right - it certainly tallies with my memories, but it was a while ago now...

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Correct.

But why is the picture quality on the censored version so lousy? It's worse than the VHS edition I had back in the 1990s.

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