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I don't understand why The Shining, House on Haunted Hill....


And all the other 'classics' are so well known and loved and this movie is MUCH MUCH BETTER, CREEPIER AND EVEN came before the shining! IM not dissing the other movies at all, just saying this movie, especially the ending, but the whole thing from start to finish is one of the creepiest movies out there ever made and until yesterday I had never heard of it! Which is odd bc I have watched ever horror movie form silent movie era to current releases (in theaters) and constantly am looking up horror flicks and never even came across this one! And only reason I even found out about it now was by chance! This should be in a top ten list and I've seen too 100 lists with no mention! It's definitely my top 3. I've come to the conclusion that People don't like a lot of the really genuinely good scary creepy movies bc they just DON'T understand them bc they're too stupid! Ugh idiots

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I will never make a list of my favorite films without including this one because it is amazing from beginning to end. It has everything I could want in a horror film; great acting from everyone involved, interesting characters, a good story, a creepy atmosphere, a wonderful musical score, enough suspense for three films, etc. It doesn't need rivers of blood or loud jump scares to be scary. It relies solely on developing an atmosphere of unease and tension. Because of that, it is my favorite horror film ever made. I discovered this film because I was a fan of Dan Curtis from Dark Shadows and also Karen Black. But this film made me a fan of Lee Montgomery and Bette Davis because I'd never seen a film starring either of them beforehand. I'm happy I watched this film because I love each moment of it and I'm glad to see someone else feels the same way.

I've been waiting for you, Ben.

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I agree, OP. This film is excellent, its slowly uncoiling menace makes it a gem.
I truly love films from this era, people knew how to build suspense without gore.
"The Haunting of Julia" aka "Full Circle" is film made very similarly to this one.

And I must mention the wonderful, overlooked B & W film "Carnival of Souls".
Forget the remake & watch the original!


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"Didn't he discover America?"
"Penfold, shush."

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Yes much more terrifying than the shining !

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I like The Shining, too, and I hope I'm too wise to state categorically it is a lesser film than Burnt Offerings - with so many Kubrick fanatics out there... Yet I would say Burnt Offerings is a better horror movie - which doesn't reduce its merits in my book, at all.

spoilers for both movies ahead

The reason it works so incredibly well are the characters and the performances of the actors. It is definitely superior in that respect, because it gets the viewer involved on a more emotional level. Compare Jack Nicholson, who's on the brink of madness from the beginning, to no one's surprise soon regressing into a grimacing homicidal maniac - to Oliver Reed, a straight man trying to keep a grip on his sanity in increasingly surreal and threatening circumstances. Compare the weak Shelley Duvall who's apparently oblivious and/or in denial about all sinister goings-on until it's almost too late, with Karen Black, slowly coming under the influence of the house's evil spirit and channelling it, a powerful presence in her own right. That is, rather, compare Jack's 'new personality' to Karen's, Wendy's attitude to Oliver's, then it's even more obvious which movie has more potential for suspense.

In The Shining, the family is dysfunctional from the start - Jack Torrance has broken Danny's arm before they ever got to the Overlook. The Rolfs, on the other hand, though not cheap tv movie-perfect, seem, on the whole, fine. That makes their reactions to each other's increasingly *uncharacteristic* behaviour much more interesting. And that's also why, for example, the scene where Ben almost drowns Davey comes as a real shock, not just to the audience, but to the protagonists as well. Much scarier!

In an aside, although the Shining twin sisters etc. are much more iconic, many posters here will agree none of that movie's images come close in creep-outery to the sinister chauffeur...

Different films are based on different premises, writers and directors have different intentions, therefore comparison is difficult and often a bit pointless. Imo, the criteria for a good horror film are the atmosphere and how much I care for the characters. (Ideally, it should look good, too.) Burnt Offerings scores very high on both counts - it is definitely a classic, and sadly underrated it would appear.



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