This movie inspired me to be a liberal - Bound for Glory (1976) Discussion

[–] aztekman 17 years ago

How?

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[–] kincaid67a 17 years ago

Um like, there are these poor people living in these shacks... only making 4 cents a day... and um like, this one liberal guy...um...Woody...and he was like...trying to tell the people on the radio about this...but the mean republicans who owns the radio stations and the news media wouldn't let him, you know... and then like...

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[–] bmoore-13 17 years ago

kincaid67a, Help me out: Do you suggest that "liberals" speak/write the way you do here? Your reply lacks any kind of context. If you are being sincere, I don't see any sign of it; if you are being clever, well, ditto. If you suggest that liberals are airheads, well, again, your words leave no context for inferring this. Maybe you get off on private "jokes."

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[–] bfried5 17 years ago

How do you dilleneate conservative and liberal? The message of the movie is justice--which those who went west (during the New Deal) hardly received. If FDR was interested in justice for all, federal troops would have been sent into California and enforced the law--and the federal government's "liberal"
farm support program would have stopped throwing edible potatoes into the canals, slaughtering and burning swine, and allowing oranges to rot on the trees.

Neither Elephant nor Jackass

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[–] kincaid67a 17 years ago

I am sorry for my sarcasm. but..I mean, come on... How could you ask how this movie could inspire me to lean towards the "left" a little? That would be like asking me how would "planet of the apes" get you to think about evolution?" or "how would Michael moores sicko get you to think about universal healthcare?"

In this movie Woody tried to unionize workers who are making only 4 cents a day(or something like that) With me working at my job only making $3.35 an hour at the time i saw this movie (in the 1980's) and personally knowing co-workers who had gotten fired for trying to unionize at my job, I later saw this movie realizing that this is a big issue of workers rights.

This movie obviously leans on the side of a "workers rights" points of view. Woody had a pro-workers union "liberal" agenda. Many people (including myself) did not have a liberal view points in life (in general) because we are raised in a conservative environment with a conservative news media that flat out lies and says they are a "the liberal media."

The news media, which is owned by billion dollar corporations, teaches us that Union=socialism=comunism=bad=liberal

If you listen to any of Woody's songs, (the majority of them) they have a liberal leaning. "Pastures Of Plenty", "This Land Is Your Land".

Liberal is not a four letter word.

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[–] bmoore-13 17 years ago

kincaid, I still don't understand your previous post, but agreed completely with your last statement--"Liberal is not a four letter word." Not that I don't appreciate an earnest conservative point of view, but our country would be one hell of a mess without liberalism. Aside from the government programs on which we all depend (e.g., Medicare, Medicaid, Soc. Security, police, highway dept., education, military, and on and on), Americans are largely defined by their constitutional protections, including civil rights. These are liberal ideas. Even Rush Limbaugh is, in this sense, a liberal, even if he can't say the word without sounding like his mouth is full of sh*t (which it usually is). As for Woody, he was not just pro-worker but a socialist, as many others were in the wake of the '29 crash. Capitalism was not working. When I look around and see the incredible gulf between haves and have nots I think capitalism is still not really working for most people. (Solution = socialism? No, but I'd like to see more regulation.)

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[–] kincaid67a 17 years ago

I think you guys were probably thinking that i was making fun of liberals because i used the term "liberal". No, I am a liberal and i am proud of it. We have been brainwashed by the news media that liberal is a dirty word. Liberal means Justice, Freedom, Individual rights, Why does the media "hate" liberals so much? Ask the companies that owns it.

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[–] bmoore-13 17 years ago

Bullseye, kincaid.

Have you seen Matewan? As a Union film, it may be even better than Bound for Glory.

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[–] kincaid67a 17 years ago

No, i just did a search on it on Youtube and it seems interesting. I'll go rent it. Thanks.

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[–] Balcones 15 years ago

Bread and Roses (2000) is a good film too.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212826/

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[–] Ironman54 8 years ago

Responding to a VERY old post but it still needs saying so here goes:
So throw out capitalism when the economy takes a hit ? This country is as rich as any on the globe. To people who live in 3rd world countries, even our poorest live like millionaires. Who doesn't own a tv set, smart phone, the internet, cable, indoor plumbing, heat, a car maybe and on and on. And we have all this because out standard of living comes from capitalism NOT socialism. Do ya hear former communist block nations clamoring to go back to the good old days ? Why are we considering opening up trade with Cuba again - because we desperately meed THEIR business ? Of course not. Bored, spoiled college kids who have no idea how good they've got it, are suckers for this bs. As much as I love this movie (watch it when ever it comes on) I don't get whats so great about Woody. He was another guy who made a living singing into a microphone and telling people what they wanted to hear. Great work if you can get it.
What I've always loved about this movie is the cinematography and the 'feel' for the era and the fantasy story of just chucking it all and hoping on a freight train, playing my harp and watchin' the world go by ... yeah, for some reason, the thought has always appealed to me. But then the thought of 'responsibility' kicks me in the butt and the credits are rollin' instead of box car wheels - the movies over, I'm back down on earth.
Hey, just like the wealthy, I've always paid my taxes - and a lot of that tax money I pay goes to helping countries/people around the world, not just here at home. I don't see people from other countries helping ME out, thats for sure. You libs need to learn to think for yourselves (as Rush has tried to teach so many). Rush is a national treasure and a better teacher than 9/10ths of the public school teachers I was exposed to.

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[–] sliptdisk 17 years ago

Blow it out your ear, pal. Someone's opening up, here, and you don't agree with their point of view, so you have to take a dump on them. Oh, what a big man you are. And, some people have the nerve to pretend that Republicans aren't basically mean-spirited, in the first place.

I haven't even seen the movie, but I do know that I saw Amadeus when I was in my early twenties, and I consequently went on to read six different biographies of him. So, why don't you go watch Bill O'Reilly, or some other jerk that tries to assuage your feelings of guilt for having been born into privelege, and the two of you can bloviate all over each other.

I'm so sick of all you pinheads that just want to divide everybody up into little groups, so that you can divide and conquer them. Funny how none of you "good kind of Americans" ever enlist in the armed services, though, despite all of your flag-waving histrionics. Now, go ahead and say something else stupid. We're all waiting.

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[–] mrt121212 9 years ago

I think Kincaid drank too much of the Kool-Aid! And, BTW, I never saw Matewan, but I did used to live near Matawan, NJ!

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[–] kincaid67a 17 years ago

oh ya his song:Deportee

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[–] sliptdisk 17 years ago

Great tune. Did you know that he'd write ten songs every single day, practically?

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[–] Ironman54 9 years ago

Just the opposite !! Listening to Randy Quaid whine is such a pathetic scene thaT IT MAKE ME GAG. "See those ones over there ? They're workin' ... the other guys sitting there well they don't got no work... it makes me sick just thinking about it (or was it 'talking about it' ?). WHO the HELL says ANYONE owes him (or them) a damn living ? Maybe they shouldn't be sittin' around on their damn asses waiting for some one to hand them a job !! Once upon a time I was a union man - and I don't mean just a 'member' - I was elected.
I was wide eyed as a kid in my 20s but the more I was involved in my union the more disillusioned I became until I finally got the hell out.
Quaid was pissed at the man' who worked his ass off building a business and then in return employing how many people ?
This story is based on the premise that someone owes you a damn living !! How PATHETIC !!
Having grown up on these kind of movies/novels I was blinded. Steinbecks Grapes of Rath was my favorite along with this. Don't get me wrong. unions were needed and its a 'right' as an American citizen. But knock off that 'I'm owed' attitude. NOBODY owes YOU nuthin' !!

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[–] kincaid67a 9 years ago

Ok, I made this post almost ten years ago. I am no longer a liberal democrat.

If you are not a socialist by the time you turn 25 you have no heart. But of you're still a socialist by the time you turn 40 then you have no head.

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[–] Ironman54 8 years ago

Many of us have been there ... welcome to the club. Glad you wised up. Its an amazing moment when it finally 'clicks' isn't it ?

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[–] PurpleProseOfCairo 8 years ago

I decided to turn liberal too when I saw you could be a man of the people and still get with beautiful rich women.

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[–] cultfilmfreaksdotcom 8 years ago

LOL. The people who made the movie, including Hal and David, were rich as those evil Republicans, so I stayed to form.

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[–] cultfilmfreaksdotcom 8 years ago

PS During the Depression, a lot of people were hurting, and there were poor democrats, poor republicans, and rich republicans, and yes, even rich democrats.

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