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Region 1 DVD coming on August 30, 2011


Olive Films is releasing this film on DVD at last in August. You can pre-order aleady on Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0052SO0ME/dvdbeaver-20/ref=nos im

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WHY ? Because Paramount, in their infinite stupidity licensed the film to sh*tshow "OLIVE FILMS" instead of Criterion.

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Hey, you idiot, the TV version isn't available ANYWHERE, not in Sweden, not in France, not in Japan. There aren't any bootlegs. There is nothing of it out there. If the Swedish rights holders haven't done anything with it then it's unlikely that anyone else is going to get at it.

Also, Criterion most often works from the efforts of other people (BFI, Gaumont, Svenskfilmindustri, etc.) so let's not pretend they do everything right of their own accord. Have you ever seen a lot of their laserdiscs and early DVDs, many of them were/are very unimpressive. Today, they no longer hold a monopoly on excellent video transfers - they actually never did - the evidence is abundant.

Olive Films has been doing exceptional work bringing rare titles, titles Criterion probably wouldn't release or would take ages to get to, to DVD and Blu-ray in good editions - the more companies we have doing stuff like this the better.

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Idiot? Why is the poster an "IDIOT"... because YOU don't agree ? The Olive Films version of F to F is a DISGRACE and should not have been released. Criterion (while not perfect) would NEVER have released Face to Face without looking for a better print and then doing extensive video and audio restoration. The end result may not have been perfect, but it would have been a vast improvement over this shameful DVD. There are plenty of prints of this film floating around. Taking the first one given to you by the American distributor (Paramount) is NOT the answer. Also, Criterion does NOT "most often" use transfers done by others. Get your facts straight before opening your big know-nothing mouth... and calling others childish names.

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Can you read your own post - "sh*tshow" - is that not a childish attitude?

"Criterion (while not perfect) would NEVER have released Face to Face without looking for a better print and then doing extensive video and audio restoration."

Then why is their edition of Ozu's Good Morning the way it is? It's because they're using pre-existing masters - actually, it's their ancient analog tape master, which they only tried to color correct (disastrously) instead of getting a fresh new master from Shochiku in Japan (which is what they now ordinarily do. Their copies of Late Spring, Tokyo Story, Early Summer, et al. are simply contrast boosted takes of the original Japanese masters with digital clean-up.) So it's okay for Criterion to mess things up but when another company who mostly does superlative work dissatisfies you, the world is suddenly coming to an end? Sounds quite childish to me.

"Also, Criterion does NOT "most often" use transfers done by others. Get your facts straight before opening your big know-nothing mouth... and calling others childish names."

Except Criterion themselves note this - All of their Eclipse discs are from pre-existing masters, sans their digital work, from whoever they are licensing the films from. It is well known that they use the same masters used to produce earlier discs from Gaumont, Studio Canal, BFI, and other companies (various Godards, Red Desert, The Red Shoes, Black Narcissus - these all originate overseas and there are many, many more like them.) The Seventh Seal came directly from Svenskfilmindustri; they did the actual film transfer, whoever released the disc in each country worked from the digital master produced by SI in Sweden. Criterion's "restoration" work is mostly digital post-processing, they don't do photo-chemical stuff. The recent Blu-ray of Bigger Than Life was created by Fox (Fox does this for everyone - Masters of Cinema in the UK, the French Frank Borzage Blu-rays - it's Fox's work.)

Criterion often do have unique, original transfers, and they are good, but a large portion of the time they are working from pre-existing masters shared with various other companies - everyone does this, everyone has to do this if they want a viable business.

Perhaps you should get your facts straight and knock off this nonsense.

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Firstly, I don't see how personally insulting a Poster is in any way comparable to calling Olive Films a "Shi*show" (Which based on what I have seen, is an apt description) I have seen no work from them I would describe as "superlative". Perhaps you should take a look at "Face to Face" before making any comparisons to any Criterion release. As I have said, even their WORST transfer is far superior to this sub-sub par DVD.

Secondly, Since the cost of "photo-chemical stuff" (meaning a REAL restoration) is far beyond the realm of economic possibility for a small company like Criterion, I think they do the most with what IS possible and have improved as new elements and techniques have become available.

And NO, my world is NOT "coming to an end" but based on your over the top response to MY response, yours clearly should.


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Yep. It is out now: http://www.filmcrave.com/dvd_new.php

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This release (8/30/11) is disgraceful. It looks like a bad VHS TRANSFER FROM THE 80's and the sound is simply awful. This is an important film. You can't take a print in terrible condition (like this one obviously was) and just throw it out onto DVD with no digital picture or sound restoration. I was an Associate Producer and Film to Tape transfer supervisor for Criterion in the early 90s and the first thing I did was scour every possible place on the planet for the best print. If Olive Films is going to license important and long unavailable films like "Face to Face" effectively making them unavailable to Criterion or ANYONE ELSE, they should at least put in the care, time and effort that the film deserves. I have been waiting for F2F for many years and frankly, I wish I had not spent 29.00 on this DEPLORABLE release. NOT RECOMMENDED!!!!" Call OLIVE FILMS and tell them why you refuse to buy "Face to Face" 630-444-1757

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Aha! So now we see why you bend over so much to kowtow to Criterion!

You know what? Your hysterical postings, whatever value they might've had, just have been tossed out the window. You throw hissy fits out of personal spite.

That makes you a perfect buffoon... and, yes, an idiot.

Enjoy my Ignore List, idiot.

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Please Explain: Why I should care about being "ignored" by someone who is basically nonexistent ?

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I actually watched this yesterday on my new DVD from Olive Films. Like many others, I too have waited decades for this movie to be available. Why Criterion has never done this is beyond me.

I have to differ a little with the poster who hated it though. The very first few minutes of the movie I admit I was a little alarmed at the sound quality, but then it rectified itself completely and was fine for the duration of the movie.

Honestly, I thought the movie looked fine and, in parts, I was thoroughly enjoying Sven Nykvist's cinematography. Trust me, if I had hated the way the movie looked, it would have gone straight back to Amazon.com.

If this is going to be the only DVD produced of FtoF, then I recommend the Olive Films release. I do not think you will be disappointed.

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plus its not like olive films went all out and tried to put it on bluray or anything. dvd is dvd, they are all crappy and fuzzy, so for now this dvd is perfectly fine. if it was a bluray that looked this crappy on the other hand, then there would be a prob. but i could care less about dvds now, im just happy i was able to add this to my bergman collection! hopefully one day criterion will get a hold of this but im sure its not going to be soon.

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Any news about the full TV mini-series being released? I just can't believe it's not available anywhere, also it's never been re-broadcast on Swedish TV.

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