Child pornography?


Am I the only one shoked by this scene with the 2 boys (Olmo and Alfredo) in a barn?
One of them getting naked and full-frontal + with an erection?
This boy was clearly underage and I found it really disturbing.

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Well, do us all a favor and steer clear of any and all 60's/70's European cinema, because you will end up with seizures. The human body is not filthy or disturbing, and seeing naked kids (obviously you are not a parent) shouldn't upset you or anyone else. So unless you were secretly turned on by it, there is NOTHING that should bother you at all. I'm guessing you're from either America or the Middle East...

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Thanks, and I couldn't agree more, Captainbryce2. Also, I particularly love how graphic violence is so often referred to as "action". Now that's disturbing. And again, unless these people have some hidden pedophiliac arousal or bizarre tendencies, why the heck would they or anyone give two flips about seeing some naked kids?! Good Lord!!

Here's hoping none of them are parents!

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"single a scene out" a naked boy with a boner touching it and moving the foreskin back and forth... the child was about to come!
And you think its weird when some suggest that it may be crossing the line...

Yeah I heard the "Sexuality is "wrong" and "immoral" by people in your category...

You are quite obvious ,in fact as clear as glass ,I suggest a visit with a psychiatrist.

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pelle the conqueror,les turlupins,the reivers,lord of the flies,murmer of the heart,get out your handkerchiefs,zappa,you are not alone,dozens more that I havent seen but ive heard of..since you asked..

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Barnens ö, too, although that was released in 1980.

Brad Kern is Satan

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The Swedish film "Barnens ö" actually does show a boy with an erection. In fact it's even somewhat central to the plot. Remember, European cinema is different from American cinema. Scenes like this are not considered offensive, and certain not back then anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APLxvcCfHok

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I'm guessing you're from either America or the Middle East.


people from the middle like watching little boys with erect penises on film its called pedophilia something they support over there and have been for ages.Having kids naked on film is one thing showing one playing with and erection is perverse but you middle eastern worshipping anti american pedophile loving libtards seem not to get that .

Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have something to say "

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There were many scenes that disturbed the audience when I saw it a theatre.
The scene you mentioned, the scene where the two main actors are masturbated in bed(with erections), the killing of the cat, the defecation of the horse & probing of its rectum (nothing covered), the child having sex with the two adults (he pulling up his pants,butt showing), and a few others. I saw the uncut version & know of more than a couple of people that asked for their refund.

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While I respect your view, I feel that you're making a bigger deal than you should. Nudity in foreign films, even that of children, is common and is normal. I recall seeing movies on tv with child nudity in it back in the early 70's, and nobody complained that I recall. Remember The CBS Children's Film Festival? They had child nudity, which to a child like myself was merely funny, and still is in some circumstances.

What you should really be concerned with is the realism of the violence, such as an ear being cut off, a cat being killed, and the boy who is murdered. Even the cow's rectum scene bothers me, and I spent time on my grandparent's farm, and am accustomed to the smells of animal feces, but never saw any birthings or any mating, so seeing the arm in the rectum is a bit gross to me.

Were the boys exploited or abused? I doubt it. To me, the comparing scene was normal and was used to set things up for later scenes, such as the Socialist movement, and how different the boys became as men. Olmo is very worldly and very open and into sexual matters. And Alfredo was the innocent. However, after Olmo returned, he was different. If you watched long enough to see the scene with the whore, Alfredo was into it, and Olmo wasn't. Perhaps Olmo is gay, but I'm not sure. But I do think the scenes are necessary to give us some more details of their personalities at that time, and how different they became as adults.

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Superman (1978) shows a naked kid, and IIRC it wasn't just a glimpse. Think about it, it was a big budget superhero movie.. Like Avengers or Man of Steel today.

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Superman (1978) shows a naked kid, and IIRC it wasn't just a glimpse. Think about it, it was a big budget superhero movie.. Like Avengers or Man of Steel today.
http://media.theiapolis.com/d4/hMN/i1ORN/k4/l1P65/w1H9/aaron-smolinski -as-baby-clark-kent-in-superman.jpg

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the kids junk wasn't erect though and in a aroused state .It was just naturally hanging there .I don't think the issue here is so much about showing naked kids as it is asking on where it was necessary .A professional artist wouldn't need to show you two young boys measuring their twigs .If you have the need to see young kids naked period.
It wreaks of someone who is not a professional and very talented or someone so in self involved with themselves and ego.The fact that it was shown and people needed to see it is bothersome . I'm guessing the majority of the people who agreed are liberials ?

Let's face it, people hate art movies. Especially when they are not expecting an art movie"

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the kids junk wasn't erect though and in a aroused state .It was just naturally hanging there
Sometimes, that's not exactly in one's control.

I don't think the issue here is so much about showing naked kids as it is asking on where it was necessary
Well, clearly the scene was important to the story in establishing Olmo's superiority complex over Alfredo (as a young child). It was prepubescent competition. Guess what, that's how preteen boys "compete" sometimes. There's a reason why "comparing dicks" is a stereotype.

A professional artist wouldn't need to show you two young boys measuring their twigs
That's your opinion. The other way of saying that is that a "professional" artist would have no reason NOT to just to avoid offending prudes who think they know "art".

It wreaks of someone who is not a professional and very talented or someone so in self involved with themselves and ego
And your credentials are what exactly?

The fact that it was shown and people needed to see it is bothersome
The fact that it was shown wasn't bothersome within the context of the movie. The idea that people "needed" to see it is not accurate.

I'm guessing the majority of the people who agreed are liberials
Everyone is Europe (you know where the movie was made) is "liberal" compared to anyone living in America. America is a conservative, backwards, pervert country. Americans tend to sexualize everything and pervert the innocent, then act all offended when the thing they sexualize in their own mind is not perceived as perverted by others. What an infantile society!

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Bertolucci is a mangina according to the interview he felt pressured by feminists after last tango to show more penis because Brando didn't show his junk .What A fuching Pussy ! i know brando wouldn't stoop to such a low anyways because he was too talented to know better and Last Tango wasn't that great of a movie because .Bertolucci is soo full of himself everything is about him and his self indulgent nature .

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"Mangina"? What s dumb-a** insult and name. Oh shut up,troll. Bertolucci probably didn't have a problem getting the guys to show their stuff because Europeans have always been fairly liberal about showing sex on-screen, and have a much more mature,less hung-up attitude toward sexuality. Thank for that stupid sexist attitude that anything or anybody that caters to women is some kind of weakling lower than dirt. Whatever.

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You will be shocked with the latest films in 2008 to 2014 by Iván Noel then.

Oh well for you.

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And WHY would I be shocked by Ivan Noel films?
Do any of his films show a boy get erect?
Nope. None of them do.

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dear american friends, that was absolutely NOT child pornography! That was a quite delicate scene between two kids discovering their body. Nothing sexual, check the dialog! I saw the movies (2 parts in italian theaters) 40 years ago, great success; maybe "Novecento" is the most famous italian film ever made. Everyone in Italy has watched it.
There were some scenes that disturbed the audience at the time, mainly the two main actors masturbated in bed and even more the killing of the cat (actually a doll). Even the defecation was accepted because at the beginning of '900 that scene was very common in a rural society (even probing of its rectum). I'm pretty sure nobody complained about the kids.
However, you're right: nowadays it would be impossibile to do such scene again. That was easily admitted by director Bertolucci.

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Why are you directing this comment to Americans?
I see one or two comments here from people who found the sight of a young boys erect penus disturbing. But I don't see anywhere that they are Americans.
Don't be so presumptuous. And don't insult my country.

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This film is probably illegal for Americans to own. See the Jared of Subway case.

The theory is that underage minors, being minors, are not capable of deciding whether to be nude in media, and therefore all such depictions are necessarily without consent.

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I remember having an erection at the tender age of 11!!?? (disgusting I know;-/)

Should I turn myself in? OH! Wait! When I was 15, I kissed a 14 year old girl with my tongue(french/sick kissing?)

Oh dear I'm so sick... I need help.. ..2015 = ..two kids and a wife(2½ years younger than me!?)

What to do, what to do.. I feel so evil;-D

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You're an idiot.
You think because you had an erection when you were 11 that's the same thing?
Tell me, when you got this erection were you starring in a multi- million dollar budget film directed by a world famous director? Was it FILMED? And was your erection seen by millions of people?
No?
I didn't think so. You're comparison is moronic,
It would be like if I filmed myself taking a sh!t and released it in theaters. Then you said? What's the big deal? I take a sh!t every morning!

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I think you are an idiot for comparing an otherwise innocent scene to taking a Sh!t. Suffice it to say, it wasn't a big deal, and anyone who really had a problem with that scene (compared to everything else that was shown in this movie) has got some fûcked priorities!

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Are you really that dumb or did you just not read all of my post?
I wasn't comparing masturbation to going to the bathroom. I was comparing going to the bathroom to the previous posters comment.

So you agree with the other guy that masturbating in PRIVATE is the same as masturbating on film? Because if you do then this conversation is over. There's no reasoning with you.

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There was no "masturbation" in this film. Jesus, what the hell movie were you guys watching (wishful thinking I suspect)? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APLxvcCfHok

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Filming little boys examining each other is indeed wrong, whether it's "directed" by some high-falutin director or a guy in a motel. Children know there is something screwy with lights and a crew around them, so they can display and touch each others' pee-pees. If not, people are hypocrites to be rabid over celebrities caught with these images. And little boys should not be (they know what's happening) acting like they were just raped by pulling up their pants in such a scene. They wouldn't film a scene like that with girls, though.

And filming a horse (or cow) taking a dump with an arm inside it's rectum is still crap, not "art".

We don't particularly wish to do what "Europeans" do. The U.K. is very strict about films, and they are part of Europe, so it's not all of Europe with their anything-goes liberal mindset. You just don't mind exploiting things to serve yourselves, is what it is.

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As the OP everything I said I still believe to be true, even after reading some of these comments.

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