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A pathetic copycat filmmaker


The scene wherein Gabbar kills all the family members is DIRECTLY LIFTED from Once Upon a Time in the West!! They even stole the harmonica soundtrack and the smash-cut to the train after he kills the boy! This is unforgivable plagiarism in my opinion.

If you are going to remake something, at least inject some creativity of your own.

Achilles absent was Achilles still.
-Homer

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You're right. This is a real hack-job. If only Tarantino directed it, then it'd be a masterpiece!

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Eh.

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Excuse me? Tarantino's whole damn career is based off of ripping off old '70's flicks--he probably would have ripped this one off like he did the ending to the classic Hong Kong police thriller CITY ON FIRE for RESERVOIR DOGS,plain and simple.

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Actually for that period of time there was no other option but to copycat a little cause most people wouldn't of knew about it being a rip off. many still didnt have tvs in india to know it was a copycat scene and media was limited or none existant I.e. no youtube facebook or imdb. people in the west had only 3 channels to view and also many didnt even have colour tvs also.

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The whole movie is a rip off

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Agreed...but one scene of saving private Ryan is lifted from this movie..just watch both movies carefully..

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Your absolutely correct! I think these instances are definatley plagiarized:

1. As you mentioned the family massacre, Harmonica sound & previous bird-shooting sequences ('Once Upon A Time In The West')

2. Two 'Vigilantes' Jai and Veeru are hired (Manco and Conol Douglass Mortimer in 'For a few dollars more') to bring in Gabbar Sign (Reference to the Mexican bandit El indio), except the protagonist is to be left alive in this movie.

3. The train hijacking scene (by Juan Miranda and his family in 'A Fistful Of Dynamite')

4. Jai and Veeru (Manco and Conol Mortimer) intending to steal the money from the safe, but subsequently get caught ('For a few dollars more')

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I'm actually glad that the IMDb boards are ending; I used to enjoy reading them, but more and more I see idiotic threads like this one. It seems that there are a group of people out there who think that it's truly relevant to discuss what parts of movies or TV series are copying which other movies or series. Really? You haven't even grown up enough to do a little research and discover why there is a saying, "There is nothing new under the sun."

I remember years ago hearing someone explain why there are only 37 or 39 original jokes in the world. Sounds preposterous until you hear the explanation and begin to see that there are a limited number of subjects and/or punch lines for jokes and every other joke is created just by changing a couple of things. It's pretty much like that for many things - books, movies, paintings, sculptures. All that can be done is for the artist/author/director/actor, etc. to try and add bits of their own personality into the creation to make it appear that it's something new.

These discussions are annoying and ignorant when you see them going on about movies that are all made in one country - those that all come from one culture. This is a combination of Star Wars & In Cold Blood, no it's Star Wars and Pretty Woman, no it's Pretty Woman and From Dusk to Dawn. Really? Such a crazy waste of time and whatever effort someone actually put into the comment.

Then you come to such discussions when it's about movies, books, TV shows from two different countries - very different cultures, such as America and India. Who are you so uselessly trying to defend in such a silly argument. It doesn't matter if the internet or cable TV exists or not. Do you really think that Indian audiences are supposed to be satisfied watching nothing but American actors in American settings using English only to tell the story? Don't even think that you can convince me that my fellow Americans who like to beat their chests about others being nothing but copy cats would be satisfied with the opposite situation. So many Americans whine like crazy about needing to read subtitles in order to watch foreign films. Sure, all over the world, nothing should be done unless it's done in English so that Americans won't have to strain their brains.

I am not at all surprised that people, including Americans, enjoy seeing movies in their own language, enjoy seeing actors they are familiar with, like seeing beautiful scenery from their own country, seeing people enjoying food that they are familiar with and enjoy any personal input from directors, choreographers, actors, etc. that makes the movie seem more a part of their own culture. Now we have teens charging plagiarism (probably because they are proud of the new vocabulary word they learned) as though American studios, authors, directors, or actors are not competent to file a court case if the charge was relevant.

Just had to get that rant in while I still am able to, but I sure won't be missing the nonsense of such folks when the IMDb boards are a mere memory.

Shauna & Ms. Phoebe, my God-given Happy Therapy Pup (even at 12-years of age!)

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