Is the movie about freedom?


what is the movie about?

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The book is an indictment against cultural and traditional American Christianity and so is the film, albeit expressed more subtly in the latter.

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No it's not. It's an indictment against life-stifling legalism in general and, specifically, that of American mental institutions in the mid-50s (Kesey wrote the book in the late 50s). The novel wasn't inspired by Christian legalism, but rather by Kesey's time working the late night shift as an orderly at a mental hospital in Menlo Park, California, where he got to know the patients and witnessed the inner-workings of the asylum. Kesey did not believe these men were lunatics, but rather that they simply did not fit society's box & the "rules" thereof; as such, they were exiled to the institution as rejects, which didn't help them, to say the least.

Of course, the ideas in the movie relate to any institution where legalism might infect the people, not just mental hospitals, e.g. family, school, job, military, church, ministry.

"Footloose" (1984) is another great anti-legalism movie.

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Exactly!

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Exactly right Wuchak. This movie is about anti-psychiatry, an indictment of mainstream American psychiatric practice and ultimately an indictment of many of the established beliefs of mainstream Western society.

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You obviously have never read the book.

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Freedom, yes.

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You equate sleeping with minors, theft, breaking and entering, etc. to freedom?

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You equate false analogies with thinking?

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McMurphy didn't sleep with a minor and break a bunch of mental patients out of a hospital, steal a bus....?

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Which minor did he sleep with? The breaking a bunch of mental patients out of a hospital and stealing a bus, so what? Did they have a good time? Was it better than being lecture by a nurse with a 2x4 jammed straight up her ass?

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That's how he ended up there, you dingus. He slept with 15/16 year old and was sent to prison. He's a piece of shit and a pussy, so he faked mental illness to get out or his prison sentence.

Oh, they had fun! Why didn't you say so?

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"dingus"?

Get back to me when you're capable of speaking like a mature adult.

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Are you deflecting because you forgot you were defending a pedophile?

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Look up the meaning of the word "pedophile" before you accuse McMurphy.

She said she was 18. He was convicted of statutory rape. She was below the age of consent. She could have been 17.

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I believe it was an allegory about (and against) the communist lifestyle.

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Given his own background (fleeing from Czechoslovakia, and all that), I think Milos Forman probably read the story that way, at least in part: the flawed individual against the repressive regime with the repressive regime ultimately destroying said individual.

But I think you could read it multiple ways. Which is why I think it endures.

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It's an allegory about any authoritarian system that oppresses, controls, and crushes those under its powerful thumb. And authoritarian systems can run the gamut from far right to far left, religious or secular. As O'Brien says in 1984, power exists for the sole purpose of perpetuating itself. It can profess all the good intentions in the world, and its adherents can often even consciously believe that what they're doing is for some greater good—but in the end, it's all about power over others.

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Might as well be about getting the jab. A bunch of lunatics following orders because they were told it was good for themselves and society.

Take your pill now, it’s good for you, and your neighbor. Now stfu and go to bed. No world serious for you.

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That reminds me to the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy and "The Outside of the Asylum"...

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It's about officious psychopaths and the people they're allowed to gaslight.

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