why did they lobotomize McMurphy? - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) Discussion

[–] cracked_machine 10 years ago

As she had said to the board earlier, she believed they could help him. Whether or not she was genuine, the board believed her. Labotomies were used to alleviate aggressive behaviour - amongst other things - so it stands to reason. Of course, that course of 'treatment' has been rubbished since.

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[–] Kuato_and_George 10 years ago

Because he tried to kill Ratched, which came after

1. raping a teenager
2. breaking out and bringing a bunch of mental patients with him.
3. breaking hookers and booze in and causing total chaos in the process.
4. getting violent with other staff before Ratched.

It was the last straw. He was their patient at that point and this was their final option in their eyes. Attacking a higher up - and a woman - was not acceptable.

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[–] sadboy714 10 years ago

Lol.

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[–] TaRaNRoD (1579) 7 years ago

Well let's be honest, she was a total bitch.

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[–] Tabbycat (748) 4 years ago

Actually, she’s sumpn of a cunt, don’t you think?

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

He didnt rape anyone.

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[–] archer1203 (48) 5 months ago

Wrong website

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[–] Degree7 10 years ago

Spoilers, *beep*

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[–] ergye 10 years ago

Spoilers? Please. This movie was released 39 years ago.

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[–] Degree7 10 years ago

you know, the world doesn't revolve around the year 1975. There are actually people born after that mythical year who have not had the fortune to see the movie yet, and spoilers are spoilers no matter how old the movie/book/story is. So piss off.

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[–] ergye 10 years ago

Telling people you disagree with to piss of. What an unoriginal jerk.

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[–] Degree7 10 years ago

Spoilers aren't an opinion.

I'm telling your smart@ass, IMDB attitude to piss off.

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[–] ergye 10 years ago

I am laughing here thinking how stupid you are. You keep replying to this thread that spoils the movie. Every time you do this the thread moves to the top so everyone can read it.

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[–] ergye 10 years ago

Reading comprehension is not your strongest suit. And your insults are weak which tells me you are not very bright. Once again you reply to this thread bumping it to the top while protesting that the title contains spoilers. Brilliant.

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[–] The_White_Hotel 10 years ago

Children please, can't we just agree that you're both right? Some people have not seen the movie despite its year of release so perhaps the thread-starter should have been more discrete in his choice of subject line. On the other hand, if you haven't seen the movie and yet you come to its discussion board I don't think you can have too many complaints that you saw a thread whose title tells you something about what happens in the movie. Do either of those things make either of you stupid? No, so don't worry about what the nasty man is saying.

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[–] Skibidido 9 years ago

If you go to a message board of a movie you havent seen and you get spoiled, you have yourself to blame.

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[–] Degree7 9 years ago

This argument is defunct, because you can clearly see message board topics directly below the user reviews; you don't even have to click on the message board link. It takes all of 2 seconds to put a spoiler warning in there, and is simply message board etiquette. Don't make excuses for laziness.

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[–] Tyler-A-Arse 9 years ago

If you go to a message board of a movie you havent seen and you get spoiled, you have yourself to blame.

Exactly. People come here to DISCUSS the movie. If you read something you didn't want to read, tough schitt.

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[–] marty-130-840283 9 years ago

Spoilers? Please. This movie was released 39 years ago.

doesnt matter if the film was made 100 years ago, show some respect. dont spoil it for people who havent seen it.

theres no time limit.

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[–] Wuchak (8110) 4 years ago

But, again, anyone who visits a message board devoted to discussing a movie s/he hasn't yet seen is basically asking to have the movie spoiled. The answer is simple: Watch the movie first and then come to the message board.

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[–] Naptown317Native (524) 3 years ago

I bet degree is dead by idiocy right now. Poor soul didn't even get to watch, or read, one flew over the cuckoo's nest.

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[–] BobbyDupea 9 years ago

It was the only way they could control him and that was their primary aim, as with any patient in that facility.

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[–] ck1-5 8 years ago

Basically, because he was a pain in Ratched's ass and she had the pull to make it happen.

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[–] The_Ultimate_Hippo 8 years ago

Because he had attacked Nurse Ratched and tried to kill her.

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[–] silverr8c 8 years ago

The reason he tried to kill her was because he was overcome with grief knowing that she was directly responsible for the kids death.

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[–] kieranmufc1999 8 years ago

Ratchet couldn't control him and was loosing control of the ward because of him. She was the kind of person who has to have complete control and defeat anyone so by letting Mac out he would have defeated her whereas if he's lobotomised the people in the ward see she's defeated him

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[–] silverr8c 8 years ago

There was another reason, FEAR.

She was afraid that if there was an investigation into the kids death Murphy would testify that he killed himself as a direct result of her attacking the kid psychologically by threatening to tell the young mans mother about his little adventure. The kids hear of being exposed made him kill himself. Her fear of being exposed as a sadistic manipulator by Murphy made her fix it so Murph could no longer talk.

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[–] znapper 7 years ago

I don't find that very believable.

Any testimony from McMurphy would be laughable, since he is more or less nuts in the eyes of society.

It would be a bigger threat to her if any of the voluntary patients to leave and then speak of their experience, but she only lobotomized the only guy that could never leave.

No, he was lobotomized because she had all she needed to get it done and finally get rid of this problem once and for all, her only goal was control over the ward and the patients and that is also why she was so sickeningly happy after everything had settled down again.

She never cared for Billy and she never cared for any of her patients either, she even enjoyed seeing patients showing opposition, having a hard time, so she was sadistic as well.

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[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7401) 7 years ago

In the book, Chief Bromden actually says that her goal is to eventually lobotomize everyone. Even without reading the book and just watching the movie it is pretty clear she had no intention of helping anyone.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Well I don't know how accurate a narrator Chief Bromden in the book is. I mean he does imagine hoses and suction tubes coming from the ceiling at night, and I do not think the reader is meant to believe that was really happening. I mean he is actually crazy in the books. Does that mean Nurse ratchet isn't evil? No she is pretty bad. but Chief is a paranoid schizophrenic his perception of reality may not be accurate.

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