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Biogenetic engineering of black slaves


People on this thread have mentioned the appalling practice of breeding human slaves in the Antebellum South.
There's another topic of selective slave breeding so horrific and morally reprehensible that no one will talk about it or recognize it today.
It was told to me by a friend who is Afro-American. I'm just the messenger, so don't blow your cool and start ranting and raving and calling me a racist.

In the Antebellum South, wealthy slave owners stumbled upon the scientific application of crude eugenics selective breeding of black women to create desirable sexual partners and mistresses.

According to legend, the female African slave possessed a strong, curvy, desirable body to the white male slave owners, but their facial features were not all that aesthetically appealing to the white owners. Perhaps by accident or forethought, the idea of applying selective breeding of desirable genetic characteristics as applied to cows, pigs, and prized race horses, could be applied hence to human beings as well.

The appalling, horrible selective breeding of certain black women began. The African female started as the human genetic base subject. The selective genetic bioengineering process would take decades, but in essence, would introduce Caucasian genes into the black woman. It didn't take long but pleasing results appeared, black women who would resemble the beautiful late twentieth century black women like Jayne Kennedy, Halle Berry, Dorothy Dandridge and others. Mix in more Caucasian genes and white slave owners were delighted to see results like a more pleasing, attractive, carmel or tan-colored skin tone instead of the black brown of the African human; even green eyes started appearing in these little female black babies.

Now there was never any intention of breeding these women for the cotton fields. These female babies were destined for the best and classiest brothels in cosmopolitan, swinging cities like New Orleans of the early to mid 1800s. Beautiful Afro-American women with carmel colored skin and refined Caucasian features became all the rage and in high demand with the wealthy white men in the Deep South urban centers. Many became mistresses and lived comfortable lives in 'golden cages'.

The picture gets worse. The genetic experimentation didn't stop. The sophisticated slave-breeders went further. It didn't take a rocket scientist to analyze the prospects of going to the next extreme...creating a genetically enhanced white woman, with larger breasts, wider, curvier hips, fuller figure, shapely legs. Thus was created the, 'quadroon', and the 'octoroon' white woman, respectively, 1/4th African and 1/8th African. Historical anecdotes describe the quadroon and octoroon women as looking completely Caucasian. Most quadroon women could pass for all-white and every octoroon woman could pass for white. But in the deplorable racially primitive times of the 19th century, quadroon and octoroon women were legally classified as black and did not enjoy the basic rights and freedoms of 100% Caucasian people. Worse, these women could be sold and bought as property. Once again, a different fate was intended for these women. The light brown-skinned black woman and her quadroon and octoroon sisters inhabited the finest and classiest brothels in the largest deep south cities. These brothels were among the most luxurious, offering large, colorful, comfortable places for wealthy white men of all adult ages to come together and socialize along with their chosen mistresses, escorts, and one-nighters. Quadroon and octoroon women became popular. According to historical legend, the octoroon women often were the most sad. They looked in the mirror and saw a completely white face looking back but they were little better socially and legally than cotton plantation field slaves. The best they could hope for would be a long-term relationship with a wealthy white man - hopefully a younger, handsome one - as his mistress. Legend adds, that often white men did fall in love with their quadroon and octoroon mistresses, but they were forbidden to marry them.

In the early 1850s, a reknown British sculptor, John Bell, toured the Deep South. There is no hard written evidence but the story goes, he attended a slave auction and was stunned to see a white woman being sold. She even reportedly had manacles on her wrists while waiting in line. On the auction block, she had to drop her clothes and exhibit herself. Inquiring as to what was going on, Bell was reportedly told that this slave woman was 1/8th African and 7/8ths white. That is how John Bell was introduced to the concept of the octoroon. Returning to his native England, years later he sculpted a beautiful life-size marble sculpture that he titled, "The Octoroon", based on the visceral image of the octoroon woman he witnessed.

It's a most troubling part of our nation's history that I think most people are happy to forget and not think about. Yet it happened. Once more, please don't rant and rave and call me a racist. I'm just relating what was told to me many years ago by an Afro-American friend. If you want to critisize me for even talking about this, well, so be it. But often, historical truth is unpleasant and ugly, but truth is truth.

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KarenHeard222,

I told you guys not to shoot the messenger. An Afro-American friend related this to me many years ago.

Maybe the Old Deep South white plantation owners weren't among the brightest of bulbs, but they didn't have to be rocket scientists to see the human results of sexual intercourse between a Caucasian man and an African woman. Their curiosity furthered by the results of a lighter brown-skinned child with different facial features, it was only a matter of time that the slave owner or his sons would have sexual intercourse with a female offspring of such a union. The result was a quadroon child. Fascinated and attracted by the child's good looks, especially if it was a female. No doubt these guys began to see the commercial value in peddling off prime beautiful stock of carmel-colored beauties or those white women with some African heritage in them, which amounted to little more than legalized white slavery as well.

It all came down to the bottom line, making a buck off the skin trade to satisfy horny rich white guys almost two hundred years ago.

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Sounds good to me. Maybe that's why, I as a white man, like black girls today.

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Your "afro-American" friend was pulling your leg.

It was just horny white men raping black women. Didn't your own brain cells tell you that apparentl, the "negro" face of black women wasn't THAT much of a turnoff. Of course, if they got pregnant, they would have mix-raced babies. It is up to individual taste what any one individual finds attractive.

People take too long to grow up to be able to "breed" for any organized long-term plan of breeding to have sustained. Although, I'm sure there were individuals who mated their "besst" with the "best" to sell their slaves and I'm sure there were white males who, finding, their own progeny attractive raped their own children.



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Nice.

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Thanks for sharing that really interesting/informative piece of shady history. I see no reason why it would not be true. It is a shame that 6 years have passed and nobody really seemed to apreciate what you have written. People don't care about history that much.

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I, too, reported something on here that did not come from me but from another poster further down quoting something from a web site about a particular movie so I was actually the third messenger but probably because my post appeared near the top of the thread I was the one who got shot down. This was under the movie 12 Years a Slave and I hesitate to tell you the subject of the post, or posts, because I'll probably be pilloried again. But, don't worry, I'm with you on the messenger is just reporting what he or she has heard.

The question is whether or not your friend could have been right. I'm guessing that there is some truth in what he was saying. I can relate to what Mehki_girl said about people taking too long to reproduce to make genetic engineering feasible but, really, a generation is only about 20 years long, and in Mandingo if you recall Ellen and her friend who Hammond and his, I think, cousin encountered were in their early to mid-teens. What with the apparent depravity born of ignorance and lack of oversight on the part of the slave owners, I could see new generations starting every 15 years or fewer. Also, if you watch Rabbit-Proof Fence, you will discover a well documented genetic program instituted in Australia in the last century. It was not instituted by scientists, I don't think, but just government types. You didn't have to be a rocket scientist to "breed" people, whether by design or just, as people on here have protested, happenstance.

But what you say is interesting because I have sometimes wondered why so many African-American females seem to naturally have lighter skin than their male counterparts, and why they may have more delicate features. In fact, I think the larger features of African-Americans are being bred right out of them as we speak, probably in part by partners selecting each other and having an inkling what will arise. It doesn't take a genius either to see that a baby looks exactly like a cross between its mom and dad. When I have ever seen light-colored eyes in blacks, though, it seems to be in island folk. If you could, perhaps you could research this subject and write a screenplay about the sad Octoroon of whom you speak. You could mention the bioengineering but of course would have to way soft-pedal it. By the way, I'm sorry to be one of those post Nazis, but as your comments are so beautifully written I think you deserve to know, I think the word you want is "caramel."

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It wasn't a "jungle fever" thing. They just wanted smarter slaves.

Never argue with a Cultural Marxist. They never make sense and they never give up their racism.

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For such a breeding program to work, the slave owners would, for the most part, have to refrain from donating their own sperm. If the slave owners really wanted to breed beautiful light-skinned shapely beauties then they couldn't contribute their own DNA unless they had delicate features and mothers and sisters with the sort of shape they desired, and no history has recorded white men with delicate faces and shapely sisters being asked to breed other men's pretty slaves. And what about when these girls went to the brothels they'd been bred for, and began, uh, taking DNA from the sort of men who had to pay? Sure, the next generation might be whiter, but they wouldn't be better looking. And what about the light-skinned male children who came out of this supposed breeding program?


Nah, what we have here is somebody's nasty sexual fantasy rather than history, and OP I hope the fantasy wasn't yours.

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I assume this explains Kim K's enormous derrière?

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