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Films like this did away with the editing and cinematographic rule book

posted 6 years ago by LetThemEatCake (2717)
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But in the end, the rules were right because since then there have been a billion Jaws, the movie itself hasn't aged well whereas classic rule book films like Double Indemnity, Vertigo, Cleopatra, Sunset Boulevard, The Birds and many others, not only do they still impress both as art and entertainment, but they have yet to be match. They are impossible to supersede, and Lord knows they've tried, as a matter of fact, there is a system in media to keep those films obscure and out of circulation, but they still tower over absolutely everything.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

It has so aged well!

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

I was just looking at it and it has not.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

To you.

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

i have great taste and insight.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

It's so sweet that one person thinks so!

[–] Kendricks (2080) 6 years ago

ignore him, he's a troll. check other posts by him, nothing he says matters.

[–] catsidhe (1649) 6 years ago

He sounds hot, though.

[–] TheBlackWaffle (226) 6 years ago

Lol, this is the most cringe-worthy comment in the history of this site.

Also, wake the fuck up. Jaws has aged amazingly well.

[–] lennonforever (2453) 6 years ago

👍

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

What about it hasn't aged well?

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

I agree. Still extremely watchable.

[–] MrZoolook (442) 6 years ago

Tell you what, in 40 years time, come back and tell us how anything in the last decade has aged better than Jaws.

I guarantee, Jaws will looks as good at that time, as it did when it came out. While anything you cite from this era will look just as terrible as it does now!

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

that's the thing, Jaws uses the same language of this era.

[–] MrZoolook (442) 6 years ago

I'm sorry, I must be misunderstanding what the phrase "hasn't aged well" means in the context you are using it.

Generally, a film ages well if it speaks to generations of viewers.

You now say that it uses the language of this era, thus the new generation of viewers can still watch it and understand the language it uses.

Surely that means it IS aging well, which is the exact opposite of what you say in your original post.

Are you sure you understand what you are saying?

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

I do, do you?

[–] MrZoolook (442) 6 years ago

Well, the fact that the film is still being enjoyed, and has had packed cinema re-releases, goes against your statement that it hasn't aged well.

So, clearly, you DON'T know what you're talking about.

I was willing to believe you had misunderstood or mistyped something, but if you genuinely haven't, I conclude the same as already mentioned above. You're just trolling. In that case, goodbye. There's nothing more to discuss!

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

it has aged terribly, fans like you don't know anything before it, so of course it would be packed today.

[–] MrZoolook (442) 6 years ago

Fans like me didn't know anything before it? Do you want to try and be more patronising? And that's a huge presumption on my viewing habits. And it's incorrect!

You seem to be saying the earliest film I've ever seen is Jaws? If so, you are so far off the mark you need a radio telescope, pal.

To take a leaf out of your book, you're appear so stuck in the past, you haven't seen anything released after the 1950s.

See, rediculous statement, isn't it. Since its painfully obvious you have.

Let me tell you buddy, I've seen more films, and a wider variety of them, than you have. I know the difference between vintage, lassie, and just plain old films. Apparently, much more than you.

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

seriously doubt that.

[–] MrZoolook (442) 3 years ago

So... like... what films from the last 10 years do you think are going to be packing cinemas in 30+ years time?

(edit 3 years later)
Yep, thought so. If you're so sure you know better than me at these things, you're seriously lacking in the ability to prove it.

[–] yatzo376 (7448) 6 years ago

Your deaf & blind

[–] Martoto (4143) 6 years ago

Whatever aging you detect in Jaws it has nothing to do with the choices in editing and cinematography.

The films you mention are not suppressed in any way (except for Vertigo and The Birds which were either withdrawn or made available for distribution by their director).

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

they are suppressed in the sense that to every fanboy great cinema begins in the 70's, which is absolutely not true. Fanboy Brett Easton Ellis said that films reached level of fine art during the 70's, which is false, and some other fanboy director accused of being a rapist said the 70's were the greatest decade, which is bullshit too, and that is the pervasive dogma.

[–] Martoto (4143) 6 years ago

Brett Easton Ellis is not every fanboy and doesn't, to my knowledge, influence what people can or can't watch. Neither was 70s movies considered inferior to golden era prior to Ellis giving his tuppence worth. Any real fanboy/girl/whomever of the emergent directors in the 70s should be aware of the films and the era which inspired them.

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

I didn't say they were considered inferior, they ARE inferior to golden age films, but nobody believes so.

[–] Martoto (4143) 6 years ago

"but nobody believes so" .... This is not true either.

You brought up Ellis Easton's championing of 70s cinema as if it at least influenced the way people consider it in relation to golden era/50s cinema.

Here's another thing. If Jaws threw out the rule book for editing/photography for cinema, then every movie that's come in its wake with similar disregard for the rules means that its style has been maintained. So it cannot be dated. There's no logic in your argument.

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

you are confused. What Easton said is the established dogma among film lovers. Jaws feels dated but the 70's cinematic language is the modern standard cinematic language, unfortunately.

[–] Martoto (4143) 6 years ago

I am a film lover and I don't believe any other era is inferior to the 70s. And many would agree.

How can Jaws be dated by its modern cinematic language? If it feels dated to you for some other reason then why bring it up in the context of its ripping up of the editing/photography rule book?

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

of course they would, they are all following a dogma.

[–] Martoto (4143) 6 years ago

Who is "they"?

[–] LetThemEatCake (2717) 6 years ago

sorry, I misread your original comment, nevermind.

[–] Quint (935) 6 years ago

Again this stupid term "aged well". Movies doesnt age. Either they are good or not.

Jaws is one of the best and most succesful movies of the 1970s. Its cuttin, movie scipt, its directing and its actors were so amazing ..... there is absolutely nothing recent which comes even near to that movie.

[–] SandyR (7345) 3 years ago

Cleopatra? Isn't that the movie that destroyed the studio system?