Rape


I saw this movie once, about twenty years ago. It was pretty nauseating from the start. Needless to say I didn't want to see any other movies by John Waters after seeing this one.

Sure it's trashy, and there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, if it isn't pretending to be anything else. Trashy can be funny and entertaining sometimes. But rape is not funny and there is no place for it in a comedy, as any rape survivor will testify.

Shame on John Waters for writing it, and shame on the truly repulsive Divine (rest his soul) for acting it.

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I'm watching it again after perhaps 20 years and I think it's hilarious. If the scene that you're talking about is when Dawn gets picked up by Earl (both played by DIVINE) it's consensual, not rape. Maybe you should take a look at it again, and see what I mean.
The other scene is an attempted rape where the rapist Earl tries to rape his daughter, Taffy but she stabs him to death.

PEACE.

you say you'll change the Constitution well, you know, we all want to change your Head

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I was absolutely certain that it was rape, but it was a long time ago, so I could be wrong.

Thank you however for describing the other scene, which thankfully I don't remember. Attempted incestuous rape and bloody murder. It's too funny.

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The scene with Devine and Earl is consentual (eventually).
The scene with Earl and his daughter is not exactly rape but "intent to commit non concentual incest". It is not exactly a pretty scene and you can really feel her pain. It is probably that scene you should look at to see John Waters real feelings on the subject.

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Yeah!

you say you'll change the Constitution well, you know, we all want to change your Head

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Petrified_explosion,
What you said is really interesting. And I think another point to be made about this movie is that it's a sort of "relief from the real world." I'm a very sensitive person, too. For example, I found Woody Allen's Hannah and Her Sisters excruciating to watch because of all the pain and betrayal that I remember in it. But here's what I said about Female Trouble on the "You people need to wake up!" thread. I think it's worth throwing out for discussion here.

"...Female Trouble is the funniest movie ever made, as far as I'm concerned. There's nothing else to equal it. And part of the reason I think it's so funny is that it's a sort of relief from the real world. It's not about the real world in my opinion. It makes fun of it in some ways, including some things we normally think of as sacrosanct, like compassion [the scene where everyone's oohing and ahhing at Dawn's face in the hospital]. As I said when I advertised a screening of it once, "It's an attack on everything decent in the world." But I don't think the story is actually about the real world, because it has some contradictions that are unresolvable. In particular, do the Dashers really believe Dawn is beautiful or not? One scene suggests yes, and another suggests no. And then of course there's that hilarious scene where Taffy is upset that Ida doesn't appreciate the hook she got for her. You can't just go down to the corner drugstore and buy a hook for someone.

"I agree with the person on this thread who said movies are diverse and no one can judge all of them. I believe Roger Ebert more or less said this one was trash, and he completely misunderstood it. I think he said the acting was bad. But what do you need good acting for? To depict the real world. In this film, the acting is bad when it needs to be (the girl who rats on Dawn in the school scene) and good when it needs to be (all of Divine's and David Lochary's performances). And while it's true, I assume, that Edith Massey couldn't play Shakespearean roles, she doesn't need to. In every movie I've seen her in, she played one role: Edith Massey! And that was perfect for this film.

Just so you can see that my sensitivity does set some limits to watching Waters films, this is what I said just before those two paragraphs:

"One thing I will say is that people may misjudge Female Trouble if they see it with Pink Flamingos. Pink Flamingos really is unwatchable for me. I've seen it once and would never want to again. According to one article I read, even John Waters says he'd like to remove a scene from it "for Divine's dignity" if he could, the scene where she performs oral sex on her son. While I suppose it does deserve credit for making Waters famous, I think it's a pretty mean and nasty film."

And actually, one article I read even quoted Waters as saying, "I must have been in a real bad mood when I made Pink Flamingos."

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Well you are wrong.Get off your soapbox! You don't even know what *beep* movie you are talking about.There is no rape in this movie."I saw something 20 years ago and I vaguely remember something I didn't like blah blah blah" GET A LIFE!

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Yeah, rape is vile indeed, but in this flick, while Divine is bangin' herself (Divine played the Earl (the man) and Dawn Davenport), she encourages his lustful actions and she grabs his wallet.

I've never checked stats on rape victims grabbing the rapist's wallet, but it would seem unlikely that such would happen much. Actually, it's a not a bad idea to grab a rapist's wallet as it's a pretty good idea to nail the perp.

Cheers!

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Exactly & how many rape victims scream "eat it, eat it" afterwards. This was not a rape. I never thought that.

"It's a Dog-Eat-Dog world & from where I sit, there just ain't enough damn dogs!"

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I never understood why people called that scene a "rape" scene. It's clearly concentual...

"87% of the Caucasion Persuasion has got it goin' on."
--Wonder Showzen

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Chilax, it's a John Waters film. Rape, incest, and patricide are all going to be funny.

I shall call him Squishy and he shall be mine and he shall be my Squishy.

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Dawn called her time with Earl "making love".
Also, I beg to differ if a lobster is involved.

We've met before, haven't we?

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Uh oh. someone has been triggered and needs a safe space!

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