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any theroies about the hole in the ground


What was in the hole that was so awful that could literally drive people to a nervous breakdown

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I don't know what was in it. It has been years since I have actually watched the movie, I was still a child. That one story though scared me, I always wondered what was in that hole. Could he have seen a devil or something? Or could it have been aliens I don't know. They say the story is true but I have never heard anything like it before. But it was to me the best story in the whole show. It would be cool if someone could find that hole now and send a camera down into it. But it would probably never happen. Anyways that's just my two cents. :)

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I recently bought this tape on ebay after searching for it for like 20 years or so. I also watched it when I was a kid, and it scared the hell outa me. I am dying to know what that man seen in that hole to drive him insane like that. I have heard there was a hole similar in the Pacific Northwest but may have been an urban legend.

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The hole in the NW(Ellensburg, Wa) is called Mel's Hole.

More info can be found here: www.melshole.com, which is a group of people actively searching for the hole.

A Seattle group is also researching it. Info can be found here: http://www.seattlechatclub.org/MelsHole.html

Not sure if the hole exists, but it's interesting reading about it!

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I also watched it when I was a kid, and it scared the hell outa me.


Did watching it again have the same effect?

I now have this film myself, (thanks to a query on another imdb board) but I'm strangely reluctant to watch it out of fear that the memories of it being so creepy are going to be completely ruined by seeing it through adult eyes.


I recently bought this tape on ebay after searching for it for like 20 years or so.


Well, I hope you didn't pay too much for it. I'm afraid I know all too well the thrill of discovering the title of something you've wondered about for years...and then a few taps on the keyboard later, it's right there on your screen. And will soon be on your doorstep (with any luck).

In case anyone is interested, not only are there VHS tapes floating around on eBay, but a DVD is available, too. I'm afraid I can't comment on the quality of the transfer yet, though (see above).








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The pretense of the plot was that the hole was the gates to Hell. At least that is what I was told on the set. I was the voice of the boy in the hole. The sound for that was actually done @ Century studios in Dallas. Brian Hooper and myself spent a day doing sound effects and voice tapes. The sound from the actual hole was me in the bottom of a concrete cistern calling "Lady" over and over. Was a very good movie, being able to work with Harry Thomason and meeting Rod Sterling was a great thrill for me as a kid. Brian Hooper was almost my step father, and still remains a great friend. He bought me my first car when I turned 16. He is now retired and living in East Texas on a farm.

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Thanks very much for that post! "Behind the scenes" stories always fascinate me.

[As an aside, I've been online for more than a decade now (God, has it really been that long?) and posts like yours still evoke a strong sense of amazement and wonder. The Internet, warts and all, is a remarkable achievement by making such things possible. I don't know of anything else a decade old that renews itself (almost daily it seems) the way the Internet does.]

Meeting Rod Serling must have been way cool.

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Yes it was an experience I won't ever forget. My Mother actually had a credit if you own the movie as Jackie Barnes - Script Supervisor, basically she was a glorified grip. She made a mean "Bloody Mary" Harry Thomason said. Guess whatever works for you. I have tried to send updates to IMDB on the credits listed, because they are in desperate need of updating, guess the process is slow.

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Facinating! Thanks for sharing 'mfbarnes'..

`virtual reality killed the internet star`

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Thanks for the info, always thought it was the Devil in that hole.
Must have been interesting meeting Mr.Serling!

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I don't think I want to know...I just saw this again on DVD R and have not watched it since 1980 when I was a kid. It's still effective! Love the film now that I saw the whole feature. I wonder if the 1987 flick THE GATE got its idea from the second tale in this film?

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This story was based on an Ozark folk tale (see 'The Monster of Peter Bottom Cave' in "Ozark Tales and Superstitions" by Phillip Steele).

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Thanks for the info.

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No problem!

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The "hole" story seems to be based on Devil's Hole Cave, where a reptilian monster called the Gowrow supposedly dwelt:

http://www.prairieghosts.com/boonec.html

Vance Randolph's 1951 book We Always Lie to Strangers is the main source of the Gowrow story. He also wrote of other reptilian critters in the Ozarks. The Jimplicute “was a kind of ghostly dinosaur, an incredible dragon or lizard supposed to walk the roads at night, grab travelers by the throat and suck their blood.”

The High-Behind was “a lizard as big as a bull, whose hind legs were ten times longer than its forelegs. This creature, according to some children I met near Big Flat, Arkansas, lies in wait for human beings on the trails at night and ‘laps ‘em up like a toad-frog ketchin’ flies.’”

Yet another reptile monster was the kingdoodle or whangdoodle (where do they come up with these names?). Randolph himself and a ‘possum-hunting friend came close to the whangdoodle near Waco, Missouri, when, as he writes, “I heard a strange booming sound in the woods along Spring River. ‘What’s that noise?’ I asked. The possum-hunter listened for a while. ‘I don’t know,’ said he, ‘but it sounds like a whangdoodle a-mournin’ for its dead.’”

. . . Yet I'm glad we weren't shown someone in a rubbery Godzilla suit or something in Encounters with the Unknown. Whatever-it-was in the hole was totally unknown, and all the creepier for it! The monster-noises were pretty effective; I totally forgot until a recent viewing that "it" eventually became so loud that the people in the nearby town (and the boy's farm) can hear it.

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Less is more.

"Keep your balls in the air, Reg."
- Rocky (Phantasm III)

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I like the fact the hole was so mysterious and sinister. They leave it up to your imagination and I guess I imagined it being a portal to Hell or the like.

"Keep your balls in the air, Reg."
- Rocky (Phantasm III)

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I've heard there were nude pictures of Rosie O'Donnell plastered all over the walls of the cave.
*shudder*
No wonder that poor man went insane.

Níl aon scáileán mar do scáileán féin.

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The horror! Maybe the moaning sound was Rosie having sex. It's too frightening to even suggest!

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