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Surprisingly violent for a PG


Between the guy getting shot through the head and all the other deaths, surprised they got away with the PG.
And good that they stuck pretty much to the book.

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Dear greig-2: There were a good number of movies made in the 1970s that were rated leniently by the MPAA. Remember JAWS was [PG] as well and you know what a gory ending Robert Shaw had -- blood spurting from his mouth as he gets chomped up by the shark.

And check out VIGILANTE FORCE (1976) and THE GREAT SCOUT AND CATHOUSE THURSDAY (1976). SATAN'S CHEERLEADERS (1977) was originally rated [PG] and I believe was later re-rated to [R].

THE GREAT SCOUT AND CATHOUSE THURSDAY had lots of bad words and nudity.

Some of these '70s movies would never get a [PG] today. They'd be [PG-13] or [R].

I think something else to remember is back in the '70s a lot of parents wouldn't take their kids to an [R]-rated movie so that's lost box office revenue right there and so a lenient [PG] rating could definitely lead to a bigger take at the box office.

>>> JUST THINK: Would JAWS have crossed the $100 million dollar mark in the US back then had it been rated [R]? I truly do not think so. A lot of families went to see it with their children because it was [PG]. Had it been [R] many of those families would have stayed home.

There's some other movies I've seen from the '70s that were very gritty that were [PG], like REPORT TO THE COMMISSIONER (1975).

Regards, CARTER GORMAN

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Let's not forget Logan's Run. It was almost branded with a R rating if director Michael Anderson hadn't edited some footage from the final cut of the 1976 MGM science fiction epic.

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If only movies rated [PG] at that time weren't known to make more money than [R]-rated movies maybe LOGAN'S RUN wouldn't have been snipped.

Just like how many movies are rated [PG-13] these days. Lots of them. And then the [R]-rated stuff shows up on the DVD releases.

>>> And how did SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT Part 3 get a [PG]? Loads of bad words and nudity and sleaze!

-CG

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Other examples of PG films that somehow skipped a R, but had a lot of bad language: "All The President's Men", "The Right Stuff", "A Soilder's Story",
"Sixteen Candles", "The Front". All had F bombs in them. Not that I care, I
am not a parent. I grew up in the eighties and remember PG-13 being rolled
out for "Red Dawn". Another movie that is sleazy for a PG is "Blood and Lace"



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Hey, JackRussellDog, do you mean the 1971 movie BLOOD AND LACE?

I have a tape of that movie taken from a film print. Looks very nice.

I never did bother to check and see what rating the movie had. I always assumed it was rated [R]. But I reckon not!

Regards, InvasionofPALs

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Logan's Run besides being a big bore had a quick scene of Jenny Agutter's breasts as she changed clothes. Farah Fawcett was in the movie as well but no nudity. The movie certainly wasn't R-rated fare to me. There were some scenes of lasers shooting people. Possibly more nudity was edited out of the final cut.

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Logan's Run being a big bore?

If you want a big bore, look at the new Battlestar Galactica. Now that is a big bore!!!

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Except for Agutter and Fawcett it was pretty lame and forgettable. Come to think of it even with them it was.

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Re: Logan's Run cuts

"The "Love Shop" sequence originally ran much longer, but had to be cut down under pressure from the MGM censors. Other cut scenes include Box making a nude ice sculpture of Logan and Jessica, and several characters visiting the "Hallucimill" shop in Arcade (the latter was cut for its depiction of drug use). All of the additional footage and its background music score were subsequently lost in what is now known as "the great MGM purge", when studio owner Kirk Kerkorian sold off what he could of the studio's extensive archives and simply threw out the rest."

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It's funny how we've been conditioned by artificial rating systems and pop culture to expect certain things.

Someone mentioned Sixteen Candles as having an F-bomb in it. I grew up in the 80s and at the time I didn't think anything of it. Now it seems odd.

The definition of what is nasty vs. what is really nasty has changed over the years. Eddie Murphy's stand-up used lots of foul language, including derogatory terms for homsexuals, which wouldn't pass today. The Paul Neumann hockey comedy Slapshot used the C-bomb in it, as did Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Today this word is off-limits around most women, while the F-bomb has become more acceptable. I hear the F-bomb in office settings and out in public quite often.

Times change, I guess.

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Times indeed do change, and not necessarily for the better. I hate to sound like the prude I probably am, but I wonder if we've lost our ability to shock with the barrage of f-bombs in popular culture these days. In the '70s, Joni Mitchell used the word in one of her songs ("Woman of Heart and Mind"), and it had real impact because it was so rare. Now the word is hardly even noticed.

But regarding the topic at hand, a lot of PG films in the '70s would be rated R today, mostly because of nudity and violence. On the other hand, the introduction of the PG-13 rating in the '80s has allowed children to see films that would otherwise be off-limits to them without a parental guardian (at least in theory, at the theaters that enforce the ratings).

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As long as you don't kill a giraffe to serve meat to the lions, or kick a dog.
As long as you only mistreat and kill people.
No problem.

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i thought if they had just cut that very brutal scene of someone being shot this would have been more acceptable for a younger audience i guess, i recognise about every actor i was surprised how early they killed off the actor from blazing saddles, another actor in this was later teamed up with bronson in death wish 3. it has higher standard than bronsons cannon movies but very slow going like that overlong sequence where a fella had fallen out of the train. it has some neat shots and location but i didn't care much for the story put into it, beware some releases of this gives away too much on the back of the dvd cover.



in the small town cafe walked in,
hooked up with the woman of my dreams,
calendars and clocks reverse in full speed,
little richard on the juke box records in a spin,
reached to the past to create future reality with a twist,
at the round table having soda and ice cream,
we were apart in space and time,
so i turned us into teenagers and i fixed it now,
walked out of the cafe with everything i want.



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