are you kiding me - A Boy and His Dog (1975) Discussion

[–] Eric-1226 16 years ago

The whole movie was crazy. The ending fit perfectly.

"A little old lady got mutilated late last night... Werewolves of London again."

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[–] skiguy1981 15 years ago

true but still didn't see it coming

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[–] Eric-1226 15 years ago

*Spoilers*

I know what you mean, that ending really caught me off guard, as I had been expecting that there would be further adventures with the guy and the girl after they escaped and came back above ground, and then... the movie just ended with her smoking pile of bones. Talk about a surprise ending!

BTW, this movie is also known as "Psycho Boy and His Killer Dog," so again, maybe that ending was fitting....

"A little old lady got mutilated late last night… Werewolves of London again."

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[–] skiguy1981 15 years ago

lol yea

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[–] lvd_orders 15 years ago

Don't look at it as just a loony movie. The chick represents the last dregs of the old society. She's still conniving against her own society, trying to screw over her fellow citizens to get ahead. Vic is a primal man, the lowest of the low, but he's still less disgusting than everything that led society to its downfall. When Vic chooses to eat the girl, this is a very Robert E. Howard moment (IE Conan) where we are finding ourselves siding with all that is feral over everything that is corrupt (even incestuous) in our societies.

Not a crazy movie at all.

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[–] procletnic 8 years ago

You might interpret it that way but if such analogy was really intended, it was certainly made very poorly and heavy handed. The movie is crap, I'm sorry.

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[–] DogDickOfAnubis 14 years ago

true but still didn't see it coming

I saw it coming from a mile away, but still, this movie was dumb. Very dumb. 3/10.

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[–] Balibari 14 years ago

Perfect ending. I couldn't stop chuckling cus as Blood was talking about how he doesn't have the strength to make it I was just thinking "kill that stupid woman and feed her to the dog." Voila! I didn't see it coming as such, just hoped it would happen.

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[–] kcmovieguy 14 years ago

I agree it is one of the greatest endings in movie history. i show this movie to all my new friends. I laugh at people who think that after the apocalyse women won't go back to being sex objects just like they had been for 99.954 percent of human history (assuming 90 years of voting rights versus 200,000 yeah since modern humans developed). I am not sexist, just realistic. After the nukes drop you will be able to trade a can of beets for a lay.

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[–] jonathonwisnoski-856-217430 7 years ago

This is in a post apocalyptic world where dogs are used almost exclusively to track down rape meat, which in the main hobby of the protagonist. Really not that surprising.

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[–] rideray 9 years ago

the end was really cool BROS BEFORE H0000333ZZZZ!!! // Snoop Doggy Dogg

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[–] restcure 15 years ago

Well, she did seem a little too high-maintenance for life up top.

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[–] Vrresto 14 years ago

No, people criticize the movie as being misogynist, not just the characters and themes in the movie. The movie treats the whole subject light heartedly and humorously, and portrays the woman as a needy and selfish manipulator who falls for her would-be rapist. It has nothing to do with wanting it to be candy coated (in fact, this movie is candy coated, from the perspective of misogynists), but because we're expected to sympathize with a very unlikeable character and relate to the whole experience.

Even more disturbing is that many fans of this movie seem to be expressing their hatred for Quilla and the opinion that Vic's actions were justified. The movie tries to manipulate the viewer into believing she was evil because she wanted to leave the dying dog (ignoring the fact that Vic left him there in the first place) and because she was manipulating him the whole time (as if playing mind tricks on some guy who threatened to rape and kill you is in any way immoral).

A movie that truly wanted to show the barbarity of humanity in a post-apocalyptic world would show the consequences of violence, not treat it as a joke from the perspective of the aggressor. Unless there is some exceptionally twisted irony I'm missing, I don't see how it's possible to deny the movie is misogynistic. Whether you enjoyed it or not isn't relevant so don't just get defensive.

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[–] miamisfootballplaya 12 years ago

Vrresto, I agree completely. I cannot believe all of the people on this board talking about how much they loved the ending. Quilla didn't have much choice in the matter, she could either ensnare a raping, selfish, murdering SOB or be killed by the twisted committee down below. And don't forget, Vic sought her out, attacked her, and tried to rape her at gun point, and yet somehow she is the bad guy in this situation? You people need help.

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[–] mrdisorder 12 years ago

It's obvious that they're all bad guys. The people that enjoy the movie know that Vic is a rapist, its not a secret. And Quilla was manipulating him because she is also just trying to survive a post apocalyptic world, her world is just very different from Vic's world. Vic's world is chaotic and feral, her world is systematic uncivilization. In the end she is trying to do what's best for her by using manipulation, he does what's best for him by using his gun and chooses love over sex. It's a bittersweet ending cause we know Vic has learned nothing through his experience and will likely go out and rape again.

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[–] Petronius Arbiter II 11 years ago

It's obvious that they're all bad guys.

Nope. Blood is a certifiably good guy.

Even a scumbag like Vic respects that, which is what makes the ending not so much misogynistic in my POV, as simply inevitable. To quote the last line of Harlan Ellison's novella: "I mean, a boy loves his dog, right?"

"I don't deduce, I observe."

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[–] king_of_bob 9 years ago

Everybody is using everybody else in this world. Nobody is innocent. You need help if you think anyone in this movie is doing the right thing at any point. The whole point is that when society crumbles, the world descends into chaos where it becomes every man and woman for themselves.

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[–] CanadianBill 11 years ago

Actually, whether I or anyone enjoyed the movie is entirely relevant. Whether it's misogynistic or not is a side point and matter of opinion at best. And as it happens there his quite a lot of violence against male characters in this film, so will we also be accusing anyone of misandry?

By the way, to those of you whining about misogyny, I suspec that none of you have a shred of a clue as to just how much of it would take place in an actual post-apocalyptic environment. You talk about there being a lack of consequences for violence, yet with no working police force or legal system in place there would be in fact almost zero consequences for violence, save any that the victims themselves might dispence.

We (the world) got a taste of seeing what such a lawless environment would be like back in the 90's when Serbian forces invaded Bosnia, Kosovo, etc. Tens of thousands of women raped, killed, or raped then killed. If you weren't paying attention to the news back then read up on it.

In fact there are many examples of war-torn lands throughout history where some rather post-apocalyptic-like attrocities occured, and they weren't movies, they were real events. Horrific, and real. You can sit there and point the finger at those involved and spout off about "misogyny" all you want, but in the case of a movie I'm afraid I'm going to have to applaud the writer and production for having the guts to inject some shock value in amongst all the craziness of this film. Stop crying foul and simply try to enjoy it for what it is, a 70's kind of campy sci-fi romp with one of the weirdest endings ever.

By the way, mysogyny's true definition is hatred or extreme dislike of women. I don't think Vic had any such hatred at all, in fact he had a pretty strong desire for them and was quick to defend her when the raiders attacked (after which they had what seemed like a very extended multi-part session of mutually consentual sex. Doesn't sound all that hateful to me. As for the ending, well, one really has to have a sense of humor about these things. It is after all just a movie.

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[–] ratgirlagogo 10 years ago

"By the way, to those of you whining about misogyny, I suspec that none of you have a shred of a clue as to just how much of it would take place in an actual post-apocalyptic environment."

Well, thank GOD you are writing to us all from the future where you have first-hand experience of the actual post-apocalyptic environment.

BTW I love the ending.

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[–] Diss 10 years ago

"Well, thank GOD you are writing to us all from the future where you have first-hand experience of the actual post-apocalyptic environment. "

He did provide examples of what happens when society breaks down. It doesn't take a time traveler to know what will happen.

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[–] king_of_bob 9 years ago

Well, thank GOD you are writing to us all from the future where you have first-hand experience of the actual post-apocalyptic environment.

It's called extrapolation from existing data. You may want to try it sometime. Perhaps you should finish reading a post before you reply next time.

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[–] R_Redbeard 9 years ago

I would tell you to make me a sandwich but you probably can't cook worth a damn. No, this movie isn't misogynistic because it's a movie. If you want misogyny book a flight to the middle east. Good riddance.

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[–] Xeokym 14 years ago

The first time I watched the movie, I thought maybe it would end that the girl connived him and prodded him so much that maybe they would eat the dog, but when it turned out to be her, I was actually relieved.

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[–] mmablaster 14 years ago

I can't believe that Vic didn't get to knock up all the underground chicks.

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[–] CanadianBill 11 years ago

THAT... may very well be the most disappointing thing about this movie. It was for me at least.

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[–] diegoavilarodriguez 12 years ago

I liked the ending, and i understood what the film was about. The idea, is basically that of Bros before Hos, the girl was a bitch, who tricked Vic into going to the down under, and Vic was left up with a choice, to go with the girl, the girl he was only interested in because he wanted to have sex or Blood, his trusted friend and companion. Vic made, IMO, the right choice, Blood was his friend and didnt deserve to die, besides, he was in that state because of the girl, all the more reason for Vic to choose Blood over the girl. The message is, friend will always come first, relationships/sex will always come second, now that's an interesting message to place in a post-apocalyptic film.

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[–] smoogster 11 years ago

How do you work that out? Vic left Blood up above, knowing full well that he'd likely die because he's unable/incapable of finding food for himself. The only reason Vic comes back is because he's forced to. Had the underground been what Vic was expecting, he would have stayed down there and left Blood to starve to death, without a second's thought.
He ditched Blood first opportunity he had to get sex and only came back because it turned to crap. Hardly the message of 'friend will always come first'.

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[–] diegoavilarodriguez 11 years ago

Well based on the ending (how they ate the bitch) they seemed to be fine together, naturally vic would have stayed if it had been everything he wanted it to, but that's the point, that it wasnt, he made a choice and it stabbed him in the back (or tried to milk him to be more precise), so lesson learned, never dump your friend over meaningless sex other wise you're gonna have a bad time. We learn things based on the outcome of our choices, if i hadnt got caught stealing money as a kid, i probably would still do it, but life had other plans :)

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[–] bob-717 11 years ago

I wasn't sure on first viewing but listening carefully on second it seems like Vic didn't join in on eating her (Blood of course scolds him for this). Don't know if that makes any difference morality-wise but it's something.

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[–] jimmywhale 11 years ago

Right. Blood says to Vic at the end, "But you didn't eat anything." And Vic replies, "I wasn't hungry." So Vic isn't a cannibal, and no one can blame Blood for eating the girl since he's an animal.

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[–] myxomatosis1 10 years ago

Let's sum up this thread.... women, maybe you shouldn't watch this.

I would never show this to my wife of 12yrs, but I could tell her the ending and she'd laugh. It's called irony. She manipulated him, the town hooked him up to an f'in pump, yeah ladies, how bout we show something like that involving women. wtf post apocalyptic! Yes, at first women and men probably still had nice modern consensual sex, but after numbers dwindle, scumbags take over and things to trade run out, rape is about it. Think about it, how do you get a woman to sleep with you in THAT environment? Blood didn't care about the rape, because he's a dog, all animals besides us for the most part have more or less non consensual sex.

I don't want to here any gruff from you fat chicks, I'm a lover, like none you'll ever have nor would I disrespect a woman, it's just a movie. I finished it 2hrs ago and still have a smile on my face from that ending...heck, I don't even like dogs, she had it coming.

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