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Season 4 does not make sense


I get season 4 was not good. But to me it does not make sense which I assume does not help the reputation. As near as I can tell beau was a full fledged member of the sweat hogs by episode 3. Yet I just watched episode 6 of that season on metv. He was treated like he had just showed up. Any idea why they could not show episodes in a logical order. Now maybe I missed something but I did not see anything indicating that this was a flash back episode. I base 3 v. 6 on the air date shown on the site plus the order they are shown on metv. Seems like if kotter could not bother to even try to have a coherent time line why would people at the time treat the show with respect.

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This show came on when I was 8, but I remember not watching it for very long. That was just so odd how it had such appeal and just the same lost it so quickly.

This was the norm with shows back then. Two other sitcoms this occurred with was What's Happening? and Carter Country.

I just looked at one episode where Arnold gets drunk and hits a girl. I'd forgotten I'd seen Della Reese on here before. I keep forgetting she appeared on the show. I just know nothing about these shows after Beau joined.

Granted, many of the episodes from even the second season are vague to me. I didn't care for when they dealt with 'issues'.

But I remember it was just phenomenal when it started. It still boggles my mind it could tank so quickly.

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By season 4 Gabe Kaplan had enough with James Komack and left. Komack got rid of a lot of Kaplan's friends who helped creating the show and Gabe wanted to move the Sweathogs to college cause they got way too old. Also the loss of John Travolta hurt a lot.

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I actually like season four a little better than the other seasons because, for me, and for some reason, the absence of Kotter and Barbarino, and the subsequent focus on the rest of the characters, seemed to work out. I enjoyed Barbarino's presence, but sometimes his act of being unaware and naïve went a little too far for me and derailed the proceedings. Best I can explain it.

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I fell behind in season four back in 1978-1979.

I did watch from time to time but being a kid,
I eventually forgot about it. By the new fall '79-'80 season,it was a memory.

Even in re-runs I didn't get caught up.


Now I'm watching on DVD and just started season 4. Originally, I didn't dig (like most) The Beau character and the changes made. So far though, maturity shows me that the few shows I've seen really aren't as bad as people have made them out to be.

I think what Komack was trying to do was be another Norman Lear and do more serious storylines. The cast (so far0 has done the stories quite well (despite their comlaints later about the writing in S. 4.







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To respond to the OP's question: you've caught a continuity error, one that often happens when a show is suddenly thrown into disarray and the producers are scrambling to fill airtime. As you pointed out, Beau, played by the 27 year old Stephen Shortridge was part of the gang in early episodes such as Once Upon a Ledge (1978), which aired as ep#4, and one in which he was featured prominently as one of the gang. Then, as you correctly noticed, ep#6 Beau's Jest (1978) "introduces" the new character Beau. Hmm!

Heading into season 4, there was a tremendous amount of turnover. John Travolta became a film star and and basically left the show, appearing in a handful of eps. Gabe Kaplan's appearances were also severely cut back. Additionally most or all of the original writers were fired and replaced. That's a lot to deal with in one production period, so there was likely some last-second shuffling to meet deadlines at the expense of continuity. Episodes were probably being rewritten, re-shot and edited at the last minute to account for the cast and crew turnover.

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"Frog Day Afternoon" and "The Sweatmobile" would have taken place after "The Drop-Ins" and before Beau's introduction in "Beau's Jest."

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Originally I hated it when it first aired, but re-watching it on DVD it's not so bad. Beau is okay, and Washington and Epstein get more focus, and they're the funniest ones, anyway. And I don't really mind Gabe Kaplan being out of the picture... I like him okay, but surprisingly didn't miss him much.

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Season 4 actually seems okay. Vinnie gets a job in a hospital and proves to others despite having been in remedial classes he is perfectly capable of responsibility (Barbarino's Baby). And Freddie also gets a job (The Breadwinners).

It's boring compared to the other seasons where they're goofing off and flirting but figuring out where you go after high school, and your automatic remedial services could get discontinued is "important".

Actually it would be easier for these kids to receive social security back then just for having been in remedial.

There was no ADA yet. and the idea of providing 'transition services' to any kid receiving education really wasn't even required/enforced until the 21st century. So yes this is why the season looked odd for so many years. they were supposed to 'loaf around' and live off of benefits.

The writers...etc were just well ahead of their time requiring those kids with disabilities (learning, mental...etc) to try and get good jobs. The idea of them doing it is comedic to the audience then and even now.

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Let's not pull punches: Season 4 stunk to high heaven and was intrinsically, unapologetically, downright embarrassingly awful. It was heartbreaking as a young viewer to see such a great show get flushed down the toilet by its creators/writers/broadcasters. How could they be so clueless? Oh, wait: it was the 1970s.

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