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the ending of 'The Tyrant of the Tin Pan Alley'


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Am I the only one who thinks that the ending of this episode is a very weak one? The killer was found out just because he left his glasses behind but had them later? Maybe he found them somewhere else besides that record library. Decent episode, but the ending is a very disappointing one.

Oh well, Ellery looked very hot in it...especially when he put on HIS glasses!

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I wouldn't call it weak, exactly.. but it did seem (although I never got it at the time) that they were a little more obvious than in other episodes about dropping clues. In this case though I seem to remember another character specifically mentioning something the killer was famous for doing, and that event, specifically.

That's why I have such fun with Ellery -- maybe I'm slow, but I don't think I EVER got who dun it when the show ran in prime time. I just remembered I loved it (especially Jim and David) and liked all the guest stars.

By the time I saw the show in the 90's (re-runs somewhere) I had forgotten the mysteries - and even John Hillerman -- remembered Simon Brimmer, but had no idea it was the same actor that showed up almost every week on Magnum. That time around, I only figured out the murderer once - the same murder Richard Queen figured out!

Then I lucked into a home-made set of the DVD's only a few years ago,(I think they were recorded off Sleuth, but were missing the opening teaser) and just was happy I had all the episodes -- and still wanted the real thing when it finally was released!

As for what happened with the killer in Tyrant, I think what made Ellery figure out it was them is they said specifically where they were going ... and of course that's where the missing article comes into play.

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I had no trouble figuring out whodunnit in two episodes: The Chinese Dog and The Sunday Punch.

I had my suspicions about whodunnit in two other episodes, though I wasn't sure how it was done: The Hardhearted Huckster and Caesar's Last Sleep.

Some of them weren't so obvious: Miss Aggie's Farewell Performance, The 12th Floor Express, The Wary Witness, The Judas Tree.

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Jim Hutton: talented gorgeous hot hunk; adorable as ElleryQueen; SEXIEST ACTOR EVER

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Reading the posts here I got to chuckling.

On Ellery Queen, I never figured out the telltale clue, sometimes guessed who did it, but didn't "figure" anything out. On repeat viewings, I don't fare any better.

Years ago, I would watch the old Charlie Chan movies on late night TV. I won't say I "never" picked the right killer, but I do know that there was usually one person I thought was the guy--on my repeat viewings. What I figured out was that my subconscious remembered something about suspect "C" and when it turned out not to be him, I had to conclude that what my subconscious was actually remembering was that "C" was the guy I picked on an earlier viewing.

In other words, I could see the movie three times in, say, three years and each time pick the same, wrong, person as the killer. My mind didn't remember him from being the killer, but that I had thought he was before.

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I've seen all the Charlie Chan films starring either Oland or Toler. The culprits in those films weren't that easy to spot. The ones in Ellery Queen were easier to pick out. For the EQ series, the scriptwriters were careful to give us all the clues. I have found that, in other mystery series, they don't always do this.

The thing about this episode (Tyrant) is that the ending didn't even make sense. It's the only time I've come across such a lousy ending. Interesting episode, with a lot of detail about payola (or whatever it's called), but they could have done better with the ending.

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I was just watching the series again and noticed the exterior shot of the house in this episode was the same house used in Adventure of Lovers Leap.

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That wouldn't surprise me. They probably reused a lot of the sets and outdoor shots.

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"The Tyrant of Tin Pan Alley" was a much better episode than the earlier "Mad Hatter" episode on "Ellery Queen."

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