Harris&Yemana smoking.
harris and yemana smoked alot on barney miller. i wonder if it bothered the other cast members.
shareWasn't smoking on the 'outs' in 74? I know Archie smoked his cigars but that was a part of his character. Does anyone know of others?
Every third person who complains will be shot. Two people have complained already!
i thought so too! Harris i think smoked more than yemana. but it was alot of ciggerette smoking there.
shareThe dangers of smoking were pretty well publicized by that time, but many people continued to do so. Watch films and some television shows from that period--there's a good bit of smoking going on a lot of them.
shareThey were well publicized by then.
Especially after all television commercials for
cigarettes & tobacco products were banned on August 1st 1965.
Smoking still went on ,in TV and movies (and some MTV music videos) well into the 1980s. It wasn't really until the 1990s that a harder stance was taken nationally to (at the very least) make it easier for non-smokers to breathe.
As most know ,there are really no longer any "smoking sections"
in well ,just about any place a large amount of people gather indoors.
Smoker's may be 'outdoors' 9 out of 10 times now but we still hear them whine abot their 'rights'. Smoking is not a 'right' ,it's an indiviual (and stupid) choice.
"I have a right to destroy my lungs ,get Emphysema & Lung Cancer ,get hooked up to a respirator ,get a voice-box installed in my neck ,saddle my loved ones with huge costly hospital bills that could have been avoided and die on my family and freinds ,causing them great sadness and mourning.
SELFISH!
Go for it or just be a gopher!
(MR.) happipuppi13 🐕 *arf,man!*
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WEll, the thing you have to remember is nicotine is very addictive.I've heard it said it's as addictive as heroin, and just as difficult for most people to quit
The thing about most addictions, whether it's smoking, alcohol, heroin, gambling, whatever, nobody goes into it saying "I'm going to destroy my life and cause chaos and misery for the people around me". Kids think anything they start doing, they'll have no trouble stopping, until they get to the point where they want to stop, and they can't. It's too bad you can't take kids aside and show them what they're going to turn into a couple or a few decades down the road because they started smoking or drinking or whatever.
I've lost count of the number of people I've heard say "I wish I could quit smoking". My dad finally quit after about 6 decades of smoking, because his doctor finally figured out the right words to say to scare the hell out of him.
But back to the original topic: it's kinda weird watching old TV shows and movies, and noticing how much smoking is in them, I guess because you don't see as much anymore today. One never thought about it well after you stopped seeing it all the time, then you go back and watch old shows, and you think "Wow, there's something you don't see on TV anymore".
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Studies have shown that, for most people, nicotine is on a par with caffeine as far as addiction. Many smokers have trouble quitting or staying quit due to the many chemicals that are added to the tobacco in cigarettes by the manufacturers to keep people addicted, and the lack of the familiar hand to mouth habit that smokers develop.
Many smokers have a hard time quitting or staying quit because generally recognized and accepted smoking cessation tools/methods - medications, patches, gums, etc. - do nothing to satisfy the HABIT of smoking, i.e., the hand to mouth motions, seeing the smoke, etc. Electronic cigarettes, or ecigs, were developed to mimic the physical act of smoking, without the smoke. Liquid, composed of propylyne (sp) glycol (found in many household and food products - check the ingredients on your toothpaste, mouthwash, etc.), vegetable glycerine, usually, but not always, flavorings, with or without nicotine, is heated on a coil by a battery. They produce VAPOR, not smoke. People who vape have a more satisfying experience when trying to quit smoking, and seem to be more likely to stay away from cigarettes in the long run. After 6 years of being cigarette free, my daughter and I were this close to smoking again until we discovered ecigs. We are still very happily cigarette free thanks to ecigs, and are slowly cutting our nicotine back. Ecigs are available in a wide variety of forms, from cigalikes - which look quite a bit like cigarettes, down to a tip that lights up when you are inhaling - to huge "mods" that require a bit of research and knowledge to use safely. Eliquids are available in a wide variety of nicotine strengths, too, from 0 up to 36 or more ml nicotine per ml.
Research is also being done on the advantages/disadvantages of nicotine. I, personally, am following research on how nicotine may help alleviate the symptoms of Alzheimer's, since my Mom had Alzheimer's. If and when they find an "optimal" dosage of nicotine for this embuggerance, you can bet that I will be vaping that dosage.
Please do your research, and do not succumb to pseudoscience. Burning tobacco and the chemicals added to cigarettes = bad. Vaping = ? The jury is still out as far as long term effects, since vaping is still relatively new. However, legitimate studies have shown that vaping, or ecigaratte useage, is around 95% safer than smoking.
On a different note....
One line from Harris (I forget what ep. offhand)
defending his 'right' to smoke really bugged me. (Best I recall) :
"Those non smokers and their 'fake' coughing."
I've never smoked but come from a whole family that did. The smoke itself, the smell 7 everything about it literally makes me sick. I walk past people at a bus stop & if they;re smoking, no matter how i try to avoid it, I end up coughing badly.
I can smell a smoker getting on a bus when I'm already in one.
Smoking isn't a 'right'...it'sa choice and a very bad one.
Go for it or just be a gopher!
(MR.) happipuppi13 🐕 *arf,man!*
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Autre temps, autre mores. A larger population of adults in America smoked back then. It was probably dropping from the majority percentage that it was back in the Forties and Fifties, but it was still probably close to half. It was what it was. No sense in getting hyper over what was a realistic depiction of an actual trend in a different era.
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I lost both of my parents to smoking-related illnesses, my dad directly from emphysema, my mom more indirectly through heart and pulmonary damage. I'd will smoking off the face of the earth if it were in my power to do so; but it isn't, and I don't have the right to force grown adults to bend to my wishes in everything. It's a personal choice, like you say--only the smoker can make up his own mind about it.
You're welcome, btw--it isn't often I get to pull out my rusty French around here, lol. And a big high-five to you for having kicked the habit for two decades.
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Thanks. My dad, when he was in the later stages, would never hear of people complaining about the tobacco companies. He used to say 'it's my own fault, I knew the risks and I kept on anyway'; he felt it was his personal responsibility and no one was to blame for his condition but himself. That used to break my heart, because it was partly true, but we all know how much these corporations lied for decades about what they knew regarding the dangers (and still do).
I think a lot of the overkill on the smoking (pardon the pun) was put into Mad Men purely to shock the hipsters. I recall the uproar when they showed a scene of one of the pregnant wives lighting up--my god, you'd have thought California had just slipped off into the sea. Pretty hilarious to think that my mom smoked through all three of her pregnancies, and we (fortunately, I suppose) turned out fine.
Better now that most pregnant women don't of course, but smoking during pregnancy did not produce quite the generations of three-headed mutants that I think some of today's generation seem to think was the case.
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The last cigarette commercial on the US national networks was a Virginia Slim ad that aired at 11:59 p.m. on December 31, 1970, on The Tonight Show
shareNot to dispute your comment, but since you mention that smoking was once commonplace in TV shows and movies:
Although I've never been a tobacco smoker myself, I'm OK with watching smokers on old TV shows.
But then, I never got on board with the Nanny-State/Nanny Pop-Culture attempts to accelerate zero-tolerance for tobacco use by stamping out all traces of smoking that might make it seem not only acceptable, but desirable (aka "cool"). Some zealous anti-tobacco activists even tried to get Capitol/Apple records to remove the cigarette from Paul McCartney's fingers on the iconic "Abbey Road" cover.
I guess I'm nostalgic for the bygone age where it wasn't so fashionable to wag fingers, wring hands, or smugly denounce the evil of vices and sins like tobacco use and gluttony.
"Barney Miller" was ahead of its time in satirizing this attitude in the person of the supercilious, self-righteous director of an anti-smoking clinic in the "Dorsey" episode (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0519021/combined).
To quote kevin olzak's user review (which is actually an excellent synopsis, not really a "review"):
Bill Adelson (Darrell Zwerling), the head of 'New York Institute for Smokers' Modification,' who proudly boasts that at one time he once smoked three packs a day, weighed 250 pounds, and was an a heavy boozer ("but after counter-conditioning treatments, today I have absolutely no desire for a cigarette, or alcohol, or food!").
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Obesity is a much bigger problem today than smoking because the campaign against smoking was very successful and the number of smokers is a fraction what it was in the 70s. Back then, the statistics were reversed. If we had the same kind of campaign against obesity, we could fix that, too.
What if this weren't a hypothetical question?
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All true, though soldiers in World War II referred to cigarettes as cancer sticks and still smoked every chance they got. People are willing to ignore their own health until peer pressure changes things.
But we didn't used to have an obesity problem. Restricting the high fructose corn syrup and fat contents of foods would do a lot. More exercise, too. If those kind of things were brought to the levels we had 60 years ago, the problem should be reduced to the obesity levels we had then, which was minimal.
What if this weren't a hypothetical question?
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Coastaleddy-in WW2 the soldiers were each given a carton every week by the government!
My dad was a smoker but he didn't got through a whole carton in a week so he would sell some of his to other solders who were heavier smokers.
As for knowing smoking was bad in 1974-ye we heard about it but at that time smokers were not treated with the contempt they are today.
It wasn't viewed as the ultimate evil it seems to be today
My father got the habit in WW2 and then got my mother hooked. One day in the 60s he picked up his pack, looked at it, said "I don't like these", and never smoked again. My mother had a much harder time giving it up. My sister smoked, too, but I could never stand the smell.
Non-smokers like me were the ones treated with contempt. Can't say I feel bad about the reversal.
The dangers of smoking were pretty well publicized by that time, but many people continued to do so. Watch films and some television shows from that period--there's a good bit of smoking going on a lot of themMy freshman year in college, 1970, it was still common courtesy in bars for someone to offer their drinking companions a cigarette before lighting up rather than asking permission to smoke. I don't know when that practice changed. I also remember having to wash my clothes and hair after having gone to a bar. Now there is no smoking permitted in the bars where I live.
Back to OP's query: I wonder if the non-smoking characters actually did smoke off-screen, and, if not, did they feel the need to wash their clothes and hair after every shoot (rather than just showering the next morning). share
In California, smoking was commonplace in the workplace, restaurants and public places and transportation well into the late 1980's and smokers frequently ignored "no smoking" areas.
I'm allergic to tobacco smoke, so I was acutely aware. If I asked someone not to smoke around me, or to direct the smoke away from me, or point out it was a non-smoking area, the smokers invariably treated me like I was the rude one for disrespecting g their gawd-given right to smoke. That's just the way it was.
And California was several years ahead of the rest of the USA with smoking laws. It was a godsend for my health when indoor smoking laws finally kicked-in, not only could I finally breathe without allergy medication, my clothes stopped reeking of second-hand smoke when I got home from work.
There was a fair amount of smoking in many if not most TV shows through that era. And much later.
In another classic series, Homicide Life on the Streets, you can see lots of chain-smoking in the squad room through the third season (approx 1995) - 13 years after Barney Miller left primetime.
So while the tides were turning against smoking in 1974, it would be another 2 decades before they banned smoking in the workplace and public buildings etc.
Why anybody born in the 90's on up has started smoking is beyond me. You can't buy cigarettes if you're under 18, it's like $9 a pack now, and it has to be done in a restricted area. Since the early 2000's, indoor smoking is almost eliminated. And I never see parents smoke in the car with the precious little ones in there any more
sharetheir both in their graves, and both smoked heavily.
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