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possible to guess the murder only by seeing the movie?


is it possible?

i have only seen the movie and not read the book. but i have read a few comments which make me understand a few things. but if you only see the movie, how can you know that the jugde is the only person who is "innocent"? we also dont know that the jugde and the doctor knows each other before they meet in the movie?
the movie is incomplete with important details missing

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the movie is incomplete with important details missing


Most movies are, but I don't think that the movie versions of the judge and the doctor know each other. Which is too bad, because it makes it a little more believable that the doctor would trust the judge.

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I'm actually not sure you could guess the book anymore then the movie :-).

I would highly recommend reading the book. It's a fast read, and in my opinion it's the best mystery ever written.


Also as for the judge being the only person who is innocent you don't find that out in the book till the end anyways so you can't use that to guess, and I don't think it was mentioned at all in the movie. I really don't think you could really guess who the killer in the movie unless you well really really lucky and decided early on someone could have faked their death and maybe become suspicious about the judge going off to his room when Vera screams, and we don't really see the Doctor running around but we see Lombard and possible Blore (can't recall) and you know the Doctor and him had joined forces, but even all that would be hard to use to guess what really happens. And only *possibly* could you guess in the book if you let yourself guess at the chapter before last but that would be a bit iffy.

I knew who the killer was before reading the book since I'd already seen the 40's film version, but it's still really well done, and the explanation of how and why is much much more detailed. And several things are changed in the film version, such as some of the murders the guests themselves had commited to bring them to the attention of U.N.Owen

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In the movies I saw the judge had sent an innocent man to jail who was then hanged.

Just for the record, I'm not a Dude, I'm a Dudette!

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In the movies I saw the judge had sent an innocent man to jail who was then hanged.


So he says, remember. Since the judge is Mr. Owen, it's entirely possible that he's lying to divert suspicion away from himself. Remember, in all the versions, since Vera/Ann claims to be innocent of her crime, the Doctor immediately starts building a case against her.

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In the book and the other film versions, the Judge is "killed" in the dining room where they all were when Vera screamed. It's only in the 1974 version that he is found dead in his bedroom (I haven't seen the 1989 version).

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Not unless you decide that the murderer must be one of the already-killed victims who faked their death. It could be Marston, Mrs. Rogers, or Brent, since their bodies don't show any wounds so they could have faked their deaths (i.e. taken a drug that made the body appear dead). But this would really require an accomplice, as Owen describes in his confession - would Owen really take such a drug and then just hope that his body is placed somewhere he can act unseen from? (what if the others had decided to throw his body in the furnace, or outside where it was mauled by animals?)

It couldn't be the General, Rogers, Blore or Armstrong, since their bodies are found with massive wounds that could not be faked. The Judge is tricky, since we are told he has been shot, but the Doctor is the only one that examines the body. So if you're not thinking of an accomplice, it could not be the doctor either.

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