Hey, I've never seen this movie, but my dad did when he was younger. He couldn't remember if he ever saw the end though. He remembers the son giving the adam and eve speech, and he remembers the mom and son hugging, but he can't remember if the movie ended with the mom and son hugging or what. He couldn't remember if the mom and son eventually slept together or not.
So, if anybody can tell me how the movie ends, I will relay it on to him. Thanks.
i was young when i saw this so i might be off abit. the father is overthrown by the son. actullay the mother submits to the son so the father would not be killed by the son. you then see the son and the mother hugging and kissing. the end.
shareWell, that's not "quite" it, but it doesn't matter. Check out my post in the comments section.
shareI just looked at your comment. And I saw that you didn't mention the end at all.
But, yes, when I mentioned to my dad the explanation that was given by the person before you, he said "No, that doesn't sound right."
So, if you want to tell me how it ended, go right on ahead.
The movie ends with mother and son kissing and then it fades out to the Island.I assumed since they showed the father at the end they all lived happily ever after and she shared herself with both of them.Her son becomes her husband and because his father can't produce children she marries her son and bears his children.
shareThat was my take on it. Mom decided to give herself to her son, and left the audience to reflect on whether it tamed him or not. Actually, guys, there was a novelization of the film (!) around that time also---I flipped through it once, and it looked more explicit and even uglier than the movie!
shareI actually liked this film, and when you say the novelization was more explicit and uglier, can you elaborate?
Where can I find this novel? I want to read it!
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I just saw this movie last night and I had a totally different take on it. It seemed to me that the son reverted back to a child state. The reason they were hugging was that he broke down in tears. It seemed to me that his guilt outweighed his lust.
When the father shows up he trys to kill his son but the mother stops him. The parting shot is of the father and mother holding hands. IMHO the scene was meant to signify that they had become a family again, not a menage-a-trois.
Sounds exactly like Oedipus complex?
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With all this discussion about the ending, it just makes me want to watch the whole thing again, because I haven't seen it since it was first released.
Thought I remembered it fairly well, until I started trying to tell someone about it. Anyone know if it's available on DVD?
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You people really need to watch the movie before commenting on it.
shareJust finished watching the VCI release on VHS. The ending shows mother and son having a long, very passionate kiss, obviously very different than the normal mother/son distance they had tried to maintain in the rest of the film. Father looks on, with spear in hand, but mom signals him not to do anything. The movie ends. I think this was the only conclusion that would allow every one to live... apparently as a threesome.
This is a different ending than the one described a few posts up, where mother and father are holding hands. Maybe there is a "happy ending" TV version as well???
I doubt it. I think the ending just isn't as clear as the filmmakers thought it was. In the novel, mom decides both men need her at the end, and she (ahem) acts accordingly.
shareActually there were two versions, one edited for network televison and the theatrical version. In the edited version, the son breaks down sobbing, and the mother kneels, embracing him. The father approaches from behind, carrying a spear and the mother entends her hand, silently pleading for him to stop. The father relents, then briefly takes her hand and lets go, fade to credits. The ending is open, allowing for the viewer to decide what became of the three, although it was clear the status quo was no longer workable.
In the theatrical version, after the father pulls his hand away, the mother slowly turns her son's face to her and there is a very long, very unmotherly kiss exchanged between her and the son, as the father stands just feet away. The ending is clear, the mother has made her choice to share herself with her son. The subtext is a bit clearer if you stir from the sensationalist aspect of that scene. Rescue from the island is unlikely, and the son shall never know culture, love or any part of the outside world. The mother's choice is one of compassion and practicality under the circumstances presented in the film.
Now THAT is a good post!
We just watched it on 16mm, when the R17 came up at the end we were "what?"
I've never seen the uncut version, but what was the reason for the 17?
TV version has no kissing, incest in the background, zero nakedness, and possibly a cut hallucinating "doin it with Mum" scene? (In his shrine) Love the reveal of the actual Mum in shrine version.
Without sounding too grubby, what did we miss?
In the book the mom gives herself over to her son (incest, gross) so she can help her son through his torment and keep her husband alive.
shareI read the book and saw both the cut and uncut version of it. Putting the disturbing incest stuff aside, it's a good movie.
The original uncut version has more scenes of sex between the mother and father. And at the very end, the mother relents and decides to become her son's lover in order to keep the peace. The last scene shows the mother and son making out passionately (gag!)
The censored version removes the sex scenes with the mother and father and cuts out the end where the mother and son make out.
Whether you watch the cut or uncut version, in both of them, when the mother stops her husband from killing the son, she and her husband hold hands for a few moments before she slowly lets go. In both versions, with or without the scene of the mother making out with the son, I got the impression that that holding hands with her husband and then letting go was sort of their way of saying goodbye, like she was ending their relationship so she could completely give herself to her son (gross). I don't see the father and son sharing the mother since a major part of the strained relationship between the father and son wasn't just the son obtaining a mate, but having one for only himself due to possessiveness and territorialness (is that a word?).
The book provides a more conclusive ending. Someone mentioned in an earlier post that when the son breaks down at the end, it's like he's reverting to his child self again. The book explains this part in further detail The son thought that by killing his father, he would have "won" his mate, as it is with animals, but when he realized that his mother was still rejecting him, he felt heartbroken and his tears were the proof of that along with a desperate plea for her to love him as he did her and accept him as her mate. This is partly why the mother decides to become her son's lover. because she realized that she and her husband had raised him wrong and needed to take responsibility, also because she wanted to end his suffering and be able to keep her husband alive.
The husband is in no way ok with his wife's decision to be intimate with their son, but is forced to accept it as the wife becomes resolute on her decision, and in the end he storms away and isolates himself in his own hut while the mother and son have sex. And the wife is really into it too (sick!). Even before the end, she gets tempted and seduced by the son, at one point even about to give in before her husband interrupts them, and acknowledges that she did desire her son in that way too (wtf).
As I said, it's really @#$%ed up, but incest aside, the book and movie are really good.
Ok, aside from all the gag, gross, sick interjections, can you be more graphic as if you're telling a short fanfic about what happens next? or better yet, scan those pages and upload them? I really enjoyed the film and don't have access to the book unfortunately, I really want to read it!
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I hadn't come back to this board for a while, so I wasn't aware of your request. And I wasn't writing a fanfic, I was revealing what happened in the uncut version of the movies and the book. If you want me to post what happened, I can do that. It just took me some time to dig my copy out of the attic with the other books I stored up there.
So, this is a word for word repeat of what's written at the end of the book. I started at the part where David goes to meet his mother on the cliff.
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Maida saw a figure emerge from the jungle.
From this distance, as she faced into the hot glare of the sun, it was impossible at first to tell who it was.
Finally she saw that it was her son.
David came walking toward her, holding his spear loosely. He stopped for a moment, watching her, standing there like a powerful and arrogant young god, the sun tipping his tanned sweat-drenched body with light. Then he came toward her. He did not hurry. His walk was slow and deliberate. Finally he was only a few feet away from her.
Something in her face stopped him short. The arrogance vanished. He was uncertain now, hesitant, almost shy. He seemed to be gathering his courage.
"You killed your father," she said.
"Yes."
"You killed your father," she repeated dully.
"I had to. I had to do it, Mom."
He took a tentative step toward her. She reached into the sand and drew out the knife. His mouth dropped open in astonishment.
"You want to kill me?"
"No," she said. "Not you, David."
She turned to point the knife toward her breast. He saw instantly that she was prepared to do it; he saw that she was resigned to it. He did not understand. He wanted to cry out his anger, in his frustration. His father had told him the truth back there. He understood now that what he wanted, he could not have. And would never have. She had rejected him before, but he had understood that, in a way. After all, his father had been here then. But now it was different.
Now there were only the two of them.
He had fought for her and won. Like the fish, he had seen fighting for a mate. Like the other male inhabitants of the jungle. Once they won, they always took the female, and the female went gladly.
But here, the female would not give herself to him.
That must mean that people were different from the other living things of the jungle. They really weren't creatures of nature, as his father had said, like the leopard and the bird and the fish. They did things differently.
Yet, he still wanted his mother. He wanted her so badly that his whole body cried out for her, his groin ached for her. He began to tremble. The strength started to ooze out of him. The spear fell from his hands. He watched the point of the knife, fascinated, resting there just between his mother's swelling breasts. And then he panicked.
"Don't," he begged. "No. Don't."
Maida saw the sudden transformation in her son. His eyes were pleading with her. He seemed to be trying to say: Don't reject me, please let me come to you, please love me. Don't leave me alone. She saw the misery in his face, the hurt in it from being refused, the loneliness. She saw a mist of tears spring to his eyes. The young savage had become something else. His whole body was shaking. He began to walk toward her, hands outstretched to her. Love me, love me, he seemed to be saying. Only love me.
She dropped the knife in the sand. David sank on his knees in front of her. He made a move to reach out to her. instead, it was she who reached out to him. It was she who was shaken now, feeling his terrified need for the warmth, the comfort, the love she could give him. And in her face David saw what he finally wanted to see. Love, compassion, understanding. And something more.
Invitation.
Still he did not move. It was she who reached out and embraced him, as a mother would a child. She cradled his head against her breast and rocked him gently to and fro.
Then a shadow fell across them.
She looked up. John was standing there, his spear gripped in his hand. His face and body and hands were singed and fire-blistered. His eyes blazed murderously, two live coals in his blackened face.
"No, John, no," she said.
"Damnit, Maida, I've got to!"
"No," she said. "Killing him isn't the answer. The answer is to live. To survive. All of us."
"But we tried that. It's impossible."
"No, John. It isn't anymore."
He stared at her. "My God, Maida, what are you saying?"
But she didn't have to answer that. He knew what she meant. He stared at her in shock. Her face was soft now, almost radiant. Gradually, the murder died out of his face, and he lowered his spear.
"Maida," he said. "Maida, it's wrong..."
"No," she said. "It's right. Because I love both of you, and you both need me."
"But I can't live with it, even if you think you can...."
"You must, John. We all must. It's the only way."
He stood there for a long time, looking down at her. Then, abruptly, he turned and walked toward the hut. A flock of vultures sailed above him, circling and wheeling, drawn to a possible feats, but realizing now that they had been cheated.
He stopped, watching them. Then he hurled his spear at the birds. It fell short of its mark, sailing in a long arc and then burying itself in the sand.
"You bastards!" he screamed at them. "You dirty bastards! You'll come back some other time."
Then, tears stinging his eyes, feeling sick in his stomach and soul, he entered the laboratory, closing the door behind him. He looked out of the window, saw his wife and son on the beach, still in the same position, she cradling the boy. And feeling like a voyeur, he pulled the shade of the palm leaves and threw himself face-down on his pallet.
On the beach, Maida Randall finally turned her son's head towards her.
Then she kissed him full on the lips and smiled.
"It's all right David," she said gently. "It's all right now. Love me, love me..."
He stared at her, shaken. "The way father does?"
"Yes, yes."
She ran her fingers through his hair and brought them down to caress his face. Suddenly his hands sought her body, her breasts, her thighs. She lay back and closed her eyes, and gave herself to him. My son, she thought. Oh, my son. And very far away, she heard him crying the same word over and over, sobbing it out in his ecstasy: "Mom. Oh, Mom, Mom, Mom...."
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So, yeah, that's how the book ends. I can't believe I copied that word for word. It's pretty messed up, but it was a really good book. The movie originally had the mother making out with her son at the end, but I guess critics found it too disturbing, so they cut it. You can still watch the uncut version online, which was where I saw the movie for the first time, but it was cut out of the DVD version for obvious reasons.
Wow! Thank you so much for that! It's not very graphic at all, it's more descriptive of their emotions. I'm very very grateful! This book isn't available in my country.
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You can get it on Amazon here:
http://www.amazon.com/Savage-Loose-Max-Ehrlich/dp/B000BCEKH6/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1437359566&sr=1-1&keywords=the+savage+is+loose&pebp=1437359567096&perid=106AHAN6BGK7TPR8XZTC
The problem would be shipping and taxes though. The last time I bought a book on Amazon, I had to pay $100 for shipping and another $100 for taxes. The book was only $80.
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You have to understand that the book is based on the movie. Movie was first, and some writer tried to capitalize on it. Not the other way around. You won't gain insight by reading the book except what some writer interpreted the movie. Just like if any of us were interpreting our versions.
shareI didn't see it quite that way. The father barely escaped the fire and came back to kill his son, but the mother wouldn't let him touch him and taking pity on the boy, starts to french him with Scott looking on in the background and that's where it ends. Necessity is the mother...period.
shareMaybe it was mentioned elsewhere but not on this thread--the whole concept of the savage being loose is involved here. The parents try to raise their son as a proper Victorian gentleman until they accept that he will never live in that society. Then the father begins teaching him to live in his present environment. To do so he has to put all the niceties of civilization behind him and become a savage. They succeed in doing this to the degree that the younger male (the son) takes the harem (mom) from the older, less fit male (dad). This is what happens in lots of animal groups and perhaps in very primitive human societies.
At least this was the way I interpreted when I saw it in the theater in the '70s
Necessity is the mother...period.