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Were There Really Gas Vans?


In THE ODESSA FILE there are scenes involving people being executed in gas vans. But did they exist in real life? The following essay disputes this claim - http://codoh.com/library/document/933/

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Another article on the gas vans is here - www.nazigassings.com/dieselgaschamberb.html Scroll down the page to Vans With Diesels For Mass Murder?

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Of course they existed and they were originally invented by the Soviets. Considering that the source you're linking to is a Holocaust denial site (don't give me that revisionism BS, it's the same thing), I'm pretty certain I know where you are coming from to begin with.

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Yes they existed but I never read they were invented by the Soviets,do you have a source for this?
The Soviets killed millions of people but they usually just shot people I think.

I have read in several places that the Germans used gas vans in the early days in eastern europe as it was better than mass shottings but in the end not as good as death camps.

The original post is dishonest.
History is open to endless study but people like the site he mentions are just German/nazi apologists and deniers.

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Here's a pretty basic link for a relatively reliable source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_van

And yes, the original poster is totally trying to spread pro-Nazi propaganda. I don't believe they were asking a genuine question, just looking for an excuse to spread their Nazi BS.

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Didn't he play up front for the Netherlands?

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Yes. They represented an early attempt to gas large numbers of people, but the method was replaced by the gas chambers. The SS found that it cost too much in resources, especially fuel, which was needed at the front, to kill too few people in a single pass.

Read Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich for a good high- to mid-level description of the Final Solution.

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

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Shirer was a journalist and a sensationalist not a historian. World War 2 has been over for more than 70 years now. Surely people have the right in a democratic society to question and critique any aspect of that conflict? Another article which disputes the claim of gas vans - http://codoh.com/library/document/3203/

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You haven't refuted anything in the articles I linked to. On the one hand people like you mock the holocaust revisionists and on the other hand EU governments consider what they say to be so serious that they should be sent to jail. You can't have it both ways. Try watching the documentaries here - http://codoh.com/library/categories/1167/

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One of the pioneering revisionists was Paul Rassinier himself a concentration camp inmate - www.revisionists.com/revisionists/rassinier.html
There is also the Australian soldier Alexander McClelland imprisoned at Terezin - www.jrbooksonline.com/mcclelland/book.html

www.jrbooksonline.com/mcclelland/frauds_exposed.html
There are also Jews who are holocaust revisionists -
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6912
What is false is the claim by the EU countries that have holocaust denial laws is that they are "democratic". In a true democracy a citizen has the right to question anything they like - politics, reigion, history (including the holocaust) etc. In Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Poland etc you can say God does not exist and nothing will happen to you. You can even say Jesus
Christ never existed and nothing will happen to you. But if you say there were no gas chambers or gas vans you will be sent to jail. Don't you think that's strange? It doesn't bother me if you don't agree with the revisionists but for these countries to keep blathering about "human rights" when they don't even have the right to free speech and for them to keep harping about the Nazis not having democracy when they lock people up for expressing an opinion they don't like then all I can say is that it is a sick situation -
www.ihr.org/news/irving022006.html
http://codoh.com/library/document/688/

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The Nazis were slaughtering people any way they could. Nothing would surprise me. They marched our soldiers towards the end of the war until they dropped dead.

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