I have had this in my netflix queue since I saw the weird dance scene clip on IFC (looks freaky)...but a friend told me that it opens with a scene where Nazis are shooting little girls on a swing set. Is this true? I don't know that I can handle that--anything with kids or animals is unbearable (even though I know it's acting). Can anyone confirm this scene? How graphic is it?
shareThere is a scene in which children are on an amusement ride spinning around, and the sounds of shots and then screaming are heard. Its not a graphic scene, but its disturbing. And the movie doesn't open with this scene--it comes as a flashback, several minutes into the movie.
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Bear in mind this film is about a (Stockholm-like) relationship between a Nazi doctor and an underage girl. There's nothing really explicit shown, depending on your sensitivity: nudity (sexual and non-sexual), some non-graphic violence and very adult eroticism. Not a film for people who can't handle adult themes, that's all.
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Sex & nudity, bring it, the weirder the better. I like horror films where adults are killed. It's all in good fun. But anything with kids or animals, nahhhh. Even though it's staged I really can't take it.
I thought the clip I saw was fascinating, but a friend told me about the scene with the girls. The previous poster convinced me that my friend might have been being a little dramatic. Still in my queue. Can't wait to see it.
That particular scene plays with the viewer's mind, nothing is shown (or even barely suggested).
Fascinating stuff indeed, don't expect another Ilsa though.
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Quite so, the scene at the fairground is not sensational at all. It is just a fairground scene with a girl on a merry-go-round, while the background noise includes intermittent gunshots and excited screams, probably at a sideshow or a target shooting stall. All perfectly legitimate... and yet, the image of the merry-go-round evokes turmoil and a whirlwind of passion, quite at odds with the girl’s angelic face. The gunshots bring an edge to the scene, evoking fear and shocking violence, maybe even the arrest or murder of the girl’s parents.
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I didn't see her face as 'angelic' so much as without fear. She did not seem to cower or show fear like the others which I think it was Max found so intriguing about her.
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My recollection is that one of the girls on the swings is Lucia. My understanding is that she's equating the excitement of a merry go round at a fair with shots from target games nearby with the excitement of her sexual encounter with Max, and the shots from executions at the death camp. It's a sick association which goes along with their sado-masochistic relationship later in the movie.
No little girls are being shot on the swings. Their screams are from excitement.
EDIT: Oh, I thnk I got it wrong on the target games. I think the sound effect similar to shots is a trick on the swing the girls are riding on. I think the merry go round has slack in the cables or chains that hold the swings. At some point, the slack is set free, making seem as if the swing is falling off the ride, creating that delicious fear that you're going to fall. The 'shot' sound is the cable or chain snapping taught and catching the rider. I think Lucia associates that ride and sound effect with her life in the death camp - the fear she's going to die, the gunshots, and being saved by Max.
Thank you. I saw this movie months ago, so yes, I believe my friend was being dramatic. I saw nothing objectional in the scene.
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