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Did you like Finney's version of Poirot ??


I didn't

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He is probably the second most accurate Poirot according to the book, and reportedly even Agatha Christie said she liked him. However, I think of what I'd called the Big Four--Finney, Ustinov, Branagh and Suchet--he is probably the one I like the least.

Ustinov and Branagh are the least recognizable in comparison to their literary inspiration, but I still think they crafted a likable and interesting character. Suchet on the other hand is very faithful to the books, and is also charming and likable.

But Finney. . . While he has many surface characteristics that are taken from the books, there is something about his take on Poirot that is just weird and off-putting.

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Suchet is my favorite by far.

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Physically he looks sort of like him, but there's something completely off-putting about him. The way Finney acts makes Poirot more of a caricature than a real person. I prefer Ustinov, although no one can beat Suchet.

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Better than the remake.

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Ain't it the truth?

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I did

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I did too. Suchet's effete affect is way overdone. Ustinov is, as always, most entertaining, but you don't take him seriously as a world-class detective. Branagh is forgettable as Poirot (he's always chasing some legendary British actor's or another's reputation). Finney was the only one who projected the force, the acuity, of a renowned super-sleuth. He's the best of the 4.

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"Suchet's effete affect is way overdone"

If you've read enough of the books, you'll know it's completely accurate.

Finney is a clown.

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I have read the books, Einstein. Christie wrote Poirot as a dandy, not a mincing flamer.

And how is Finney a clown?

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Then you've remembered very little, old man.

Suchet IS a dandy, not a mincing flamer.

Finney is way too over-the-top and comical with his facial expressions, all the shouting and his awful accent. And while Poirot can get angry, he's not a raving lunatic.

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LOL! So you’re an insult machine. Good for you. I read a sampling of your other posts. Just more of the same.

Won’t waste my time reading the reply you’ll feel compelled to send.

Buh-bye!


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Lol, no, I'm sure 'Einstein' was supposed to be a compliment!

Try harder next time, silly troll boy.😆

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Suchet is the one that FUCKING NAILED the role, Finney is okay but doesn't compare to either Suchet or Ustinov, who at least brought a bit of lightness and humor to the role. But Finney and Ustinov were just playing Poirot, while Suchet IS Poirot!

Brannaugh stunk up the screen in the role, he understands nothing about the man or his methods.

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I've not seen the Suchet version (which isn't really a MOVIE version so perhaps not competitive here), but I do recall that it was rather amazing to see Albert Finney in the part because Finney simply couldn't be FOUND in the part. Buried under facial make up(and prosthetics?), self-encumbered with a near-unintelligible accent with rough vocal edges, And that oily moustache.

Interesting: Finney's Poirot is investigating a "trainload of big stars" -- and yet one forgets that Finney HIMSELF was a big star at the time -- of a very "art house British type," and perhaps more of the theater. It was somewhat of a "coup" to get Finney not only to take the Poirot role, but to subject himself to such disfigurement to play it.

Finney thus ended up as one of the 1974 Best Actor nominees, and deservedly so. He "lost" (along with Jack Nicholson in Chinatown and Al Pacino in Godfather II) to Art Carney in Harry and Tonto. But that's OK, Carney WAS good(in an old man disguise of his own), Nicholson and Pacino would win eventually and -- well, Finney never did.

After the "very special" Finney performance here, his replacement with Peter Ustinov in Death on the Nile could only look like a step down. Ustinov had two Oscars(Supporting) and a great acting personality, but he all too clearly turned Poirot into "another Ustinov character" and ended up comfortably playing the role in his comfortable way a few more times.

Branaugh went for a really weird moustache(so BIG) and seemed to rather lose Poirot to his own obsessions so...no. And he could NOT get true all-star casts for either of his -- Johnny Depp(in the Widmark role in Orient Express) and Gal Gadot(in the Lois Chiles role in Death on the Nile) were as big as he could do.

So...Finney. For taking the role in the first place(a "coup" along the lines of Brando playing the role) and for HOW he played it -- unrecognizably.

I hear Suchet is the best, so I will agree to that, too.

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There are tons of Suchet episodes for free on Youtube, and I recommend a look. What can I say, he IS the character I always saw in my mind's eye when I read the books, and the series is loaded with the spirit of Agatha Christie. My only criticisms are petty - all the stories are set in the 1920s or 1930s, when Poirot actually kept detecting through the 1970s, and Poirot's London flat never seemed to be decorated with the sort of taste a Poirot would have. I mean, talk about a nitpick!

As for Finney, well, he couldn't really let any of his typical persona or real self show in the role of a fussy little genius, could he? I do respect him for taking on a role that would be that big a challenge, to play Poirot he'd have to stifle his own personality, keep any of his natural coarseness and sex appeal from showing, and play a role where he couldn't use his usual strengths while under fierce competition for the audience's attention. IMHO the result was good rather than great, he doesn't embarrass himself the way Brannaugh did, but he lets the level of effort show.

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There are tons of Suchet episodes for free on Youtube, and I recommend a look.

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Well, I keep making a list of all the movies and TV that I HAVEN'T seen that I SHOULD see, and I must admit that in my readings, I'm always reading "Suchet is the best." So...I will give this go. To YouTube!

For most of my time, i"ve gone to movies, and I've preferred movies to TV. The "Peak TV of today" (Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad) is worthwhile, but I think I just lost track of where Suchet could be FOUND. In the US. PBS?

Anyway, YouTube will get the job done.

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What can I say, he IS the character I always saw in my mind's eye when I read the books, and the series is loaded with the spirit of Agatha Christie. My only criticisms are petty - all the stories are set in the 1920s or 1930s, when Poirot actually kept detecting through the 1970s, and Poirot's London flat never seemed to be decorated with the sort of taste a Poirot would have. I mean, talk about a nitpick!

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Well, if you know the character, nitpck away!....and that's right , Agatha Christie stayed alive and writing into the 70's, didn't she? Sort of like Alfred Hitchcock kept making movies in the 70's.

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As for Finney, well, he couldn't really let any of his typical persona or real self show in the role of a fussy little genius, could he? I do respect him for taking on a role that would be that big a challenge, to play Poirot he'd have to stifle his own personality, keep any of his natural coarseness and sex appeal from showing, and play a role where he couldn't use his usual strengths while under fierce competition for the audience's attention. IMHO the result was good rather than great, he doesn't embarrass himself the way Brannaugh did, but he lets the level of effort show.

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Well, I wont back off my preference for Finney(among the movie guys) but if there is a "downside" to the Finney performance it is that his Poirot is so "buried" in make-up and muffled vocals that I suppose he doesn't really capture Poirot as much of the character, does he? I've always found the original Murder on the Orient Express to have TWO gimmicks: (1) American and British stars of decades in one place and (2) a major star totally transformed so you can't even see or hear him.

Indeed, I recall when reading that Finney would play Poirot, I couldn't picture it, and I think the studio kept all photos of him as Poirot "under wraps" til the movie came out. It was a big surprise to see THAT face with the words "Albert Finney as Hercule Poirot."

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Finney did try too hard, but he really had to! I suppose that was an example of "stunt casting" having Poirot played by the butchest Brit actor of his time, instead of Alec Guiness or Ralph Richardson - although I think Richardson might have had a blast with the part. And while I think Finney was okay, he was still rather blown off the screen by Lauren Bacall of all people, in a horde of name actors fighting for our attention she managed to walk away with the film at the end!

I do like Ustinov in the role, he wasn't quite Christie's Poirot the way Suchet was, but he was more fun to watch than Finnney. And why didn't Finney want to return for the excellent sequels, BTW? Was playing a fussy little genius just too much of an effort?

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Finney did try too hard, but he really had to! I suppose that was an example of "stunt casting" having Poirot played by the butchest Brit actor of his time, instead of Alec Guiness or Ralph Richardson - although I think Richardson might have had a blast with the part.

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I went over to the imdb Trivia section and learned:

Finney was the THIRD choice for the role.

First, indeed was Alec Guinness.

Second was Paul Scofield.

Both were unavailable. Still one can see Lumet's and the producers interest in a "prestige Poirot." Finney was only 37 at the time.

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And while I think Finney was okay, he was still rather blown off the screen by Lauren Bacall of all people, in a horde of name actors fighting for our attention she managed to walk away with the film at the end!

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I noticed that when I saw it the first time. Bacall was the "dynamo" of the film, the fun one. Ingrid Bergman won the Oscar for her timid, mopey mouse of a character, but Bacall had more fun. (per IMdb, Bergman turned down the Countess role for the mousier one. Wendy Hiller took The Countess after the studio nixed Marlene Dietrich!) Note in passing: An aged Michelle Pffeiffer in the remake ALMOST did Bacall's work proud, and I suppose the same decades had passed between youthful beauty and mature looks.

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I do like Ustinov in the role, he wasn't quite Christie's Poirot the way Suchet was, but he was more fun to watch than Finney.

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I enjoyed Ustinov too. I ALWAYS enjoyed Ustinov. On screen, he always seemed to be somehow intelligent and bit buffoonish at the same time, roly poly but actually rather handsome. He is great in Spartacus, making the journey from disinterested villain to committed hero. He was the original choice for Inspector Clouseau in The Pink Panther, and had to pull out. Imagine film history had he stayed!

Note: Ustinov's Death on the Nile is a LOT better than Branaugh's. Better guest stars for one(Bette Davis! Maggie Smith! Angela Lansbury! David Niven!...Jack Warden and George Kennedy!). And the remake was against a CGI Egypt and filled with side stories of no relevance.

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And why didn't Finney want to return for the excellent sequels, BTW? Was playing a fussy little genius just too much of an effort?

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Pretty much...and more. Per imdb, when Finney first did the role, he was also doing a play at night, so would SLEEP in an "ambulance" that drove him to the studio in the morning while hours of make-up were applied. He just didn't want to go through that grueling prep again. Funny thing: Peter Ustinov did little to his face at all -- just the moustache and hairstyle.

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Actually, and actor of 37 would have been closer to the mark age-wise than Guiness or Scofield, we are never told Poirot's age in the books, but let's see. The book was published in 1934, Poirot first appeared in 1920, and I don't believe characters started referring to his obviously dyed hair and pending retirement until the 1950s or 1960s. So the Poirot of 1934 may have been close to forty... and Finney was a *rough* 37.

And I LOVED Lauren Bacall in this movie, and HATED Michelle Pfeiffer in the same role... or rather, I hated the way Brannaugh wrote the character. Okay, I also hate that Pfeiffer looked as 1930-ish as I do now, but mainly I hate that Brannaugh [POTENTIAL SPOILER ALERT] wanted his character to finish the movie with more of a triumph than he'd had in the original story and the 1974 movie. Brannaugh didn't just want Poirot to be right, he wanted Poirot to be right and rub it in until someone broke down. Screw him, and not in a way he likes.

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I just have to reply to this thread again, because I'm watching the movie right now and Finney is so incredibly grating. He's absolutely ridiculous. His accent is all over the place (sounds more like Russian), his mannerisms are too over-the-top and silly and he looks like a clown with the all hideous make-up (looks too young as well). He really makes the movie unwatchable. I find it hard to believe Christie liked him.

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Yes.

It was fun watching the “funny little man” do his thing, always full of surprises.

And that mustache.
Looking close it seem it’s all his except the twirly ends which look glued on.

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