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Would new viewers understand the historical references?


In 1975,most people would have watched those classic MGM movies of King Arthur or at least been familiar with Medieval England tales.

Now most viewers would probably cite Braveheart, Robin Hood Prince of Thieves or the tv show Merlin as their references for life in Medieval England. So would they understand historical references like the Plague sketch? or why the Witch hunting sketch was so ironic? Or the animosity of the French taunting soldier towards King Arthur? Or the King who built his castle upon swamp land?

I'm just curious and this is not meant to offend anyone.


Never confuse the impossible with the improbable

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Yes.

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Can you list all these MGM films this film references?

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Another thing to consider is that this movie was meant for British audiences. So the real question is, would new viewers in the UK understand the historical references?

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"...would they understand historical references like the Plague sketch? or why the Witch hunting sketch was so ironic? Or the animosity of the French taunting soldier towards King Arthur? Or the King who built his castle upon swamp land?"

Can you explain those references, if you understand them?

I mean, how can someone not know there was a plague in Europe a long time ago? So everyone should understand that one.

What's so ironic about the witch-detection (not really HUNTING) skit? They just correctly detected a witch.

I know back in the day, they used to use really ridiculous catch-22s to 'supposedly prove' that someone is a witch, but this movie went so far off course that it's barely even a reference anymore. Weighs same as a duck? What's the likelihood of THAT? Any innocent woman should be easily able to escape.

As I recall, they 'witch-hunted' way more men than women, but somehow we're always shown that women are the victims..

In any case, the REAL 'witch test's were designed so that if you're innocent, you just die, but if you're a witch, you survive, and will thus be killed. Like if you can float in the water with rocks tied to your feet, you are a witch, but if you're innocent, you'll just drown.

Is this what you meant by 'ironic'?

So what's your opinion as to why the french had 'animosity' towards Arthur? (Can't you just say the french hated Arthur?)

Arthur had done nothing wrong, and treated them in a civil way, and the french were childish, rude, egotistical jerks for no reason. Talk about toxic behaviour. I see no reason for them to behave like that, and yet they did.

So what do you know that I don't know? Some historical animosity between british and the french?

The whole swamp castle stuff I have no idea about, did something that absurd really happen outside of this movie??

I don't care if you offend me, just tell me what you're talking about instead of just asking questions and expecting us to know the answers and the history, sheesh.

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If people graduated high school, then chances are they have some vague passing familiarity with historical events and concepts like "the plague" and witch burning.

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