animals


throughout the film, lucien is seen killing animals--the trilling bird in the tree, the rabbits, the chicken. he is also seen helping villagers pull a dead horse to a cart.

did pierre blaise actually kill the animals? they seemed realistic, but i couldn't imagine that happening...in the us, animal rights activists flipped when leonardo dicaprio killed an insect while shooting what's eating gilbert grape.

if they were real animals being killed, was it because of the time (1974) or the country (france)?

just something i wondered throughout the entire movie, but alas, no dvd extras to answer my question.

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I think he really killed them. Pierre Blaise was one of a number of untrained young actors Louis Malle used in his films and had grown up in rural France (perhaps in a farming family? can't remember), so this way of life was second nature to him. Philip French's book "Malle on Malle" is an excellent source on this film among others. I vaguely remember a story Malle tells about the scene where Lucien catches the chicken and karate-chops its head off, about how you can see the camera do a jump as the head flies towards the cameraman... I don't expect it would be tolerated nowadays (but then look at Lars von Trier), but in France in the mid-'70s I shouldn't think many people batted an eyelid. And of course, chickens and rabbits and hares were and are killed to be eaten in rural communities - it's not as if Lucien was torturing cats - the horse might be presumed to have died accidentally (I can't remember exactly what happens, though do remember Lucien's sorrow at the horse's death), and as for the bird I can't tell if that was real or not. I'd have to watch it again. If it was, Pierre Blaise must have been a good shot.

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Lucien's skill at shooting and trapping hares or rabbits and doves are a country boy's skills, though he seemed to relish killing them. The songbird seems gratuitous, though, unless he planned to eat it, and a single small finch isn't much of a meal.

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To Lucien, the only service the bird provides is to test the accuracy of his aim (though the compassion he later shows for the horse is unmistakable).

But more to the point, this first "kill" is an excellent way for Louis Malle to clearly establish an unconventional (and often bewildering) character - and before the film's opening titles have begun.

It's startling but brilliant.


ALBERT HORN: It's very strange - somehow I can't bring myself to completely despise you.

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If you're shocked by the death of animals in the film making process, then what exactly do you suppose the actors ate during filming?

I think it's time to admit that the majority of 'animal rights activists' aren't representative of anyone but a lunatic fringe.

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I would have liked to know about the animals. For the movie, especially for the character, I understand it, but not the reality -- why really kill a songbird for a movie ... and what happened to the Great Dane at the massacre of the couple? He seemed quite unwell the way he was breathing, and I can only hope he was not harmed in the making of this film.

Again, the cruelty shown by Lucien to animals goes with the film, but it happening in reality is not acceptable -- just like people being tortured in reality for the movie would be unacceptable.

As for the poster who doesn't seem to understand why people would have trouble with cruelty towards animals -- many people become vegetarians or reduce their meat intake, both for health reasons and for and humane reasons, in the US, Europe and Asia. Caring about the welfare of animals has little to do with those "lunatic fringe" who protest the killing of an insect!

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This is a consistent problem in watching the older foreign films. Maybe I am a hypocrite but I found it profoundly disturbing. At least in tis film it sets the tone for this characters point of view. I thought it was odd that he is described as "an innocent". Corrupted by poverty, war, etc. Malle must have had something in mind to show us this young man who slingshots the sparrow with no apparent emotion. I would say this young man is bringing quite a bit to the party. Wonderful young actor, really able to carry the role of someone so dis likable.

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