I've now seen all six films and while I don't think this is a bad film at all it makes me still wonder a few things with its open ending. So far I can only assume the Yagyu become disgraced, Retsudo dies and Ogami goes to the mountains to live out, but what makes me wonder most is what happend to the guy from Lone Wolf 4.
shareLemme answer that question for you, buddy.
In the graphic novel, this is what happened...
After a looooong journey, Yagyu Retsudo finally confronts Ogami Itto.
Itto was already wounded, but still, he managed to fight with Retsudo for 2 or 3 days, if i'm not mistaken.
Retsudo finally kills Itto, and after this, we see Daigoro grabbing a nagamaki (or spear or small sword, don't remember :D), and stabs Retsudo in the belly, and stays like that.
After being stabbed, you see Retsudo putting a hand over Daigoro's head, and says: "Grandson..."
I think he did it out of respect for Ogami, not because he was the actual grandfather or something.
Well, that's what i think!
Anyway, i hope this helps!
Ah Yeah I finally picked up the last issue of that and saw that. I still want to read the whole thing its just I hate the kind of cliffhanger endings espacilly in a film series thats 9 hours total of film.
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gamerita is correct. This *is* how it ended...in the tv series. Yes, there was a television series that featured that ending. I remember because I watched it the reruns on NGN in Hawaii with my parents. That was in the early '80s. Actually, I remember Retsudo saying "My Grandson" at the end, but I may be wrong (it has been 20+ years since I saw it).
You can find it here on IMDB...do a character search for "Ogami Itto" and you'll find "Kozure Okami," a TV series that started in 1973 and ended in 1976. Kinnosuke Nakamura (not Tomisaburo Wakayama from the movies) played Itto on the tv show.
Of course, it's a different production company with different actors, but know that someone around the same time in the 70s was thinking about finishing the series and actually finished it.
Has anyone else seen this tv series?
im just ognna though it out there that the 6th film ending was awful it had no great conclution and the last fight sceen was like a james bond chase on crack. and how could they let the villian just sled away, total crap
shareThere was never a seventh movie and Itto is alive at the end of the sixth, I dont follow the manga so this is how I would have liked it to have ended. Itto kills Retsudo and then gets his job back, somehow. Its just wishful thinking but that would have been better ending, well, anything that doesnt involve Itto dying, that just sucks.
shareI disagree. A hollywood-style happy end would have been unsuitable for a tale of a true samurai.
shareI thought it teased it at the end when Itto is just walking away seemingly presuming Cub to be dead after colliding with the tree. Then Cub gets up, and because he walks dizzy and falls over, I thought he had been wounded. I'm not sure if that was the intention or not, but it's also the only time we see Itto display affection for Cub, as he holds his arms up for him. But then it turns out Cub's OK, and that's the end. It was a shame to have Rotsundo run off like that.
Is there any reason why they never finished the films off with how the manga ends?
Can someone tell where I could get the mangas? I'm from germany, so it should be a German or at least an English version.
shareOK, I have found something.
If someone is interested, here are the ISBNs for the german version:
1. 3-89921-450-1
2. 3-89921-452-8
3. 3-89921-451-X
4. 3-89921-453-6
5. 3-89921-454-4
6. 3-89921-455-2
7. 3-89921-678-4
8. 3-89921-699-7
9. 3-89921-680-6
10. 3-89921-681-4
11. 3-89921-885-X
12. 3-89921-886-8
13. 3-89921-887-6
14. 3-86607-033-0
15. 3-86607-034-9
16. 3-86607-035-7
In the TV series I watched years ago in the Philippines there was a climactic scene in the snow after a treacherous black smith sabotaged Itto's sword and at the very end Itto was laying on the ground seemingly dead while Daigoro was weeping over him. I watched every episode up till that part then they changed the time schedule and I never saw another episode ever again. It was dubbed in Tagalog and named Ang Samurai ng Shogun. I regret never seeing the final episode and just last year tracked down Sword of Vengeance and Baby Cart, but I really want those 30 minute TV episodes.
I'VE FALLEN AND I CANT GET UP!
I REFUSE TO GET UP!
I expected another fight with the only guy who had beat Ogami Itto as in the fourth one he did say it would be him that killed him, so at least he should have tried.
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