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Good, Bad, Ugly

posted 18 years ago by WarpedRecord
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The Shout Factory DVD is a treat, especially because you can skip over the "plot" (which is horrible) and play just the concert footage (which is terrific).

And wasn't it a shock to find that the "psychiatrist" was Alice Cooper? Wow, I never saw that one coming!

I think the biggest shock was when Alice called one of the guys in the audience a *beep* I guess it's OK for a guy to wear makeup, call himself Alice and get nasty with mannequins as long as he's not -- you know -- "that way."

Still, the band is top-notch. It's a shame that a few years later, Alice parted with the boys, paired up with Bob Ezrin, and recorded cheesy "concept" albums like "Welcome to My Nightmare" and "Goes to Hell."

[–] TheAtticMan 18 years ago

But Welcome to My Nightmare was a great album that led to Trash, Hey Stoopid, Brutal Planet and a lot of the good stuff. Too bad all of his big big hits were pre-WTMN

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[–] ddddeadpool 16 years ago

I just think that he said the most insulting thing he could think of at that time to the guy.When we were kids we used that word all the time.Last year I heard my 10 year old say it(honestly dont think she knows what it means)and i freaked!Words can be ugly.We(at least my peers)didnt get that back then.I think were hypersensitive these days but that word IS ugly. Just sayin.

[–] BrewedinHolland5 14 years ago

Alice Cooper, Shocking ?

But maybe we saw that audience scene differently.

As I remember-
he was speaking to the two ladies in the audience (asking their ages)-
that guy got offended (presumably he was the boyfriend to one of them)
and started shouting obscenities and flipping the bird-
'Alice' first says he wasn't talking to him and then calls him a f@g.
Wasn't a personal view but more an insult to his offender.

Who invited E.T. -?

[–] WarpedRecord 14 years ago

I'm still here (as is Alice).

I'm probably making too much of it. These types of interactions between performer and audience have become all too commonplace. These epithets are said in the heat of the moment, to hurt or to shock, and aren't necessarily meant literally – though someone who's gay probably would think less of a performer who calls someone a "f@g," just like someone who's black might take offense at the N-word (unless, of course, it was a black person who delivered it, but that's a whole other story).

[–] BrewedinHolland5 14 years ago

You have a valid point/concern. I mean, he has used that derogatory term on a few other occasions. I witnessed at least twice, while listening to his radio show, him making comments on Freddie Mercury's sexuality after playing a Queen song. Also, and my memory might not be serving me correctly, but his interview on 'Decline of the Western Civilization 2' he made an off-hand remark about then musicians. So perhaps there is a pattern? I don't find offense by it, though, maybe because I'm not homosexual but mostly because I view him as an entertainer, no more no less.

That said, and back to your original post- it's a great DVD and the option to view the concert without the mindless side-story was something I wish I had noticed beforehand.

Who invited E.T. -?

[–] WarpedRecord 14 years ago

I've seen "Decline of the Western Civilization 2," but it's been several years and I don't remember his comment. I don't want to get all PC, and I totally support Alice's right to support or condemn anyone, whether he's in character or as Vincent Furnier. It just kind of took me aback here because it's the type of epithet that was used on Alice at the time. So it's like he's dressing up in women's clothing and calling himself Alice, but for crying out loud, don't ever accuse him of being a homosexual because those are horrible people.

Anyway, the music here is terrific, and even the "plot" to this film is cheesy entertainment 36 years later. On future viewings, though, I'll just play the concert portion. I wonder how it was received when it played in theaters, presumably at the midnight show.