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wow, much better than the new one


stupid *beep* movies with nicholas cage, this movie is a million times better than the new one could ever hope to be

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I think Cage is overrated. I fell asleep watching him in GI60S. I stopped watching Leaving Las Vegas after 30 minutes, rewound it, and took it back.

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you must be talking about the old movie, because it sucks at big time, the new one is far away better, i agree with the cgi stuff and all that impossible things, like the car flying etc, but the old movie i almost fall asleep, just worth to see because of the mustang.
And "the big chase of the old movie" reminds me of monster trucks, the car fall into pieces! lool

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No question.

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I'll second that.

"I don't believe it. It's that *beep* Dodge again!"

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This movie is much better!!!!

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I agree about Nicholas Cage being a good actor, but I also agree with the original poster here that this movie was many times far superior than the crappy CGI remake.

The original 1974 movie is a real movie with real stunts, poor acting I admit, but it's not a fake computer cartoon movie that was made on some PC.

I like the original just like it is, I don't watch it to see great acting performed by overpaid thespians, I watch it to see the greatest car chase ever filmed.

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err you may want to know that no cg was used in the new one - it was all using stunt cars, like the original.

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you're kidding me, right? no cgi? apparently, you really have not seen the film.

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As far as I can tell, the crummy remake of GI60S uses CGI for most of its stunts.

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yup, and that is most obvious during the final jump over the accident scene on the Vincent Thomas Bridge....so horrible.

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Yeah, the remake should never have been greenlighted. This original movie is FAR, FAR BETTER. I saw the remake before the original and thought it was okay. Then I saw the original and I was like, wow -- the remake sucked compared to this!! As most remakes do.....

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Amen to that, garyb.

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yea... except that CGI wasn't used.



however, the term 'As far as I can tell' makes your claim pretty credible, huh. you must be an expert both on special effects and computer animation.

Rent the DVD and watch the 'making of' featurettes on it.

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RE to NeverSummerSS:

I'm not claiming to be credible about computer animation or special effects, or did I ever. You're making an assumption. Like I said, the remake movie car stunts look like crummy CGI crap to me. The stunts are like watching a very bad cartoon. The original is not that way. It's done with real stunts.

I've not seen the special features on the DVD of the remake of GI60S. The remake does not impress me, I've seen it a couple of times and it's not worth wasting any more $ to see it again IMO.

I'm sure you're correct about the "making of featurette" claiming that no CGI was used. But I don't believe everything I hear. I've heard false claims on DVD commentarys and documentaries before. They may be intentional falsehoods or just honest mistakes on the part of the director, actors or whomever is involved. In this case I cannot say either way as I have not seen it.

IMO the remake looks like CGI cartoon crap. And that's all that is, it's just my opinion.
Thanks

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To clear things up: The "making of featurette" (not sure which one you're talking about, because there were about 18 featurettes in total) on the DVD explains that the car stunts are all real with the one exception of the final jump scene--which was filmed as an actual stunt, but the scene of it flying through the air was CGI. The take off and landing were real (hence the car swerving around and fishtaling after it lands, like a real car would do, as opposed to most "jump scenes" where the car lands perfectly and keeps on going like nothing happened; see "Dukes of Hazzard," every episode). There were, however, other scenes that were CGI (like the gas canister exploding, etc.) but other than that, the car scenes were all real (and Nicholas Cage actually drove for most of them).

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I gotta see this one again.I saw it way back in 1995.I liked it alot.
Then,i saw the remake in 2000 and i thought that it was annoying and lame.
I'd probably give the original an 8/10 and the remake a 1/10.

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...didn't like the remake when it came out ...anyway watched it again recently to check out the car!
what do people like about 'Eleanor' !? ...in my opinion they really fu**ked up the great design of the original Shelby GT500!
It looks like a 'ricer' with all the plastic parts - integrated sidepipes, bulky hood scoop and stuff...
Doing that to a Mustang is like taking a classic Porsche, Ferrari or Jaguar to a Nissan bodyshop - it's a sin!!

...anyway I also watched the DVD extras and CGI has been used... especially for the final jump!!!

however the original movie rules - 2nd best car chase movie right behind 'Vanishing Point' (1971)!!

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It shure is a classic.
I remember when i saw the movie a very long time ago in the cinema.
It became one of my favorite carchases ever.
Eleanor became my kind of car.....just a superb car....the Mach!!!!
A shame though, when Halicki died.




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I liked both movies equally 10/10 for both. The reason I liked both movies hella, wasn't the acting or any actors, but the GREAT freaking cars. But I did like the original a mere percentage points more for this reason, the cop cars. That was the time when cop cars ACTUALLY had power driving Cudas, GTOs, Falcons, and Galaxies. And now we have Crown Vics, and Lincolns... My favorite parts were: In The '74 Original the end, when he puts the beat up car at the car wash and cons the lady into the perfect yellow 'tang and just leaves like nothing ever happened. In the 2000 remake I liked (i dunno why) when the wrecking ball destroyed the cop car. But yes both movies were great, not cuz of acting but the wonderful cars (I almost cried when they turned the Charger R/T into pieces the size of dirt.

--"Sorry kids, I just can't trust something that bleeds for five days and doesn't die."--

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You don't think that Crown Vics have power? The police don't use stock Crown Vics you know. They're probably faster than the Cudas and GTOs just because newer motor technology gets more power out of smaller engines. And around here there are a lot of new Chargers running around. I'm definitely not going to try outrunning a cop any time soon. They may not look fast, but they are fast when they need to be.

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To OP. That goes without saying. Only kids and videogame fanboys prefer the new ones. Those who know a thing about cars thinks the new one is garbage.

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The original is the second best chase movie of all time (after 'Vanishing Point'), while the remake is a vapid pile of junk (rather like the remake of 'Vanishing Point'). The film didn't need lots of crappy subplots - it was simply about some car thieves stealing cars. Keep your eyes open for *beep* remakes of 'Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry' and 'Two-Lane Blacktop'.

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I think that overall, the remake of the film is easier to sit through than the original. For sure, the chase scene in the original is pretty spectacular and a lot of people would say better than the remake. But the chase scene in the remake is still good, (bar the jump on VT Bridge, which just makes me cringe) and the acting is at least watchable. For anyone that can sit through the storyline leading up to the car chase in the original, i salute you. At least the remake is bearable up until the boost night. Sure there are parts that make you want to throw a film canister at your TV "I am a baaaaaad ... maaaaaaan" -christ i cant stand that bit. But surely you would have to agree that the storyline/acting leading up to the chase scenes is far superior to the original. Having said all that, you only really watch either version for the car chase scenes and therefore before and after isn't all that important.

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---What the hell's CPR!?

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The original lacked by not allowing the viewer to feel part of the urgency to get the list of vehicles together or at least feel it coming together for the climax scene. The remake does engage the viewer better that way but, I have to agree the car chase is not a patch on the original.

For me it didn't pull me in until the chase and because of that I have mixed views over the film. It just needed a few small adjustments of some of the scenes to draw you in more I felt.

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The new movie has a better plot, but the old movie has a way better chase.

"Do you expect me to talk?..."

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I saw the origanal first on Speedvision's (now speed channel) Lost Drive-in (great movie show that introduced me to alot of classic car movies). I loved it. Then I saw the remake, which I liked as well, just not as much as the 1974 version.

Both films cater to their respective generations. The first one was made when people had no problem sitting through an hour of a film to get to the best part(s) and the real action. they were happy with a slower paced film (French Connection, Bullit, Vanishing Point, Gone, The Driver, even Rebel Without A Cause).

Nowadays, people are in more of a hurry and are used to instant gratification (mostly due to the Internet and ADD). People today won't sit through a 3 hour movie waiting for the last 30 mins of good action after 2+ hours of build-up and not alot happening. So we get films like Gone In 60 Seconds (2000), The Getaway (1994?), Vanishing Point (1997?), and other remakes. The only real exception to this maybe Titanic, but the love story of the film filled the time (and everyone already knew what was gonna happen at the end as far as the ship went).

Gone In Sixty Seconds (1974) may be the last "real" indepentant film made that was very sucessful (Passion Of The Christ was a pseudo-independant film). Yes the acting wasn't great (first film by actors who never acted before) and the story wasn't the greatest as far as plot and the film has trouble keeping the plot moving. But all this was the normal in the 60s and 70s. And I love them for it, but know that slower paced films that are sucessful like Gone and the others I metioned are long gone. It just took longer then Sixty Seconds.

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