Don't care for Issac Hayes


Didn't realize how many time Hayes was on the show. It's almost like they were trying to get him a series of his own. Always calling Jim, Rockfish and sucker punching. Didn't care for his character.

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I didn't like him because he was an abuser who beat a woman so often that she resorted to suicide. On top of that, Rockford seems pretty unfazed by this which seems terribly out of character for Jim, who generally is so protective of women.

The whole thing kind of bugged me.



"He was running around like a rooster in a barnyard full of ducks."--Pat Novak

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Rockford did say straight out that he didn't consider Lyla's death entirely Gandy's fault. She kept running back to him.

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I don't think the "She asked for it because she kept returning to her abuser" argument gets much traction any more.

I doubt that a story like this would get very far today. You would have to come up with some other sort of back story for Gandy. I guess that it just points out that the world has changed a lot in 40 years.

I've always reconciled Rockford's excuse-making for Gandy to his (Rockford's) feeling that little was to be gained by laying more guilt on Gandy. Even if he really doesn't deserve it, Jim's giving Gandy a small "out" gives him the chance to turn the page and hopefully do something productive with the rest of his life.

Jim is always a guy pretty quick to forgive human foibles. I don't think Gandy has earned much forgiveness, but doing this is pretty consistent with Rockford's character.


"He was running around like a rooster in a barnyard full of ducks."--Pat Novak

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Lyla's parents deserve some of the blame. They threw her to the curb after she had her second kid. That was part of the reason she killed herself.

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I've always reconciled Rockford's excuse-making for Gandy to his (Rockford's) feeling that little was to be gained by laying more guilt on Gandy. Even if he really doesn't deserve it, Jim's giving Gandy a small "out" gives him the chance to turn the page and hopefully do something productive with the rest of his life.

Jim is always a guy pretty quick to forgive human foibles. I don't think Gandy has earned much forgiveness, but doing this is pretty consistent with Rockford's character.


I think Rockford's view was not to make excuses or to necessarily "forgive" Gandy. But he had just done a 25-year sentence and from Jim's point of view, Gandy paid for his crime - even if it wasn't the same crime he was actually charged with. His idea was that he was "free and clear," his debt was paid, and whatever he wanted to do at that point was up to him.

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Yeah, that makes sense to me. Twenty or twenty-five years is a long time.

Actually, I'm inclined to think that I am probably deserving of being sentenced to the nuthouse for sitting around contemplating the morality of characters in a 40 year-old TV show. I need a hobby...



"He was running around like a rooster in a barnyard full of ducks."--Pat Novak

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Okay, on Fitch's negative side: Bully, woman beater, hired muscle.
Positives: Got Lylah out of prostitution, truly loved her, was truly innocent of Lylah's "murder".

The episode with Fitch teaming up with Marcus (Lou Gossett, Jr.) WAS meant as the jumping off point for a possible spin-off with those two characters. The numbers just weren't there.



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I would've watched the show.

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So would I.



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You are a racist.

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I can dislike a person or in this case, the character as is stated in the original post, regardless of race. That makes me open minded and you a race baitor or just a fool. Either way I don't like you regardless of your race which I'm assuming is *beep* jimmyberluti.

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I love Isaac (I Stand Accused, anyone?) but didn't like that the role they gave him of Rockford Files. I wish they left out the woman abuser part but, somehow they didn't ask my opinion. (-:

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That stuff goes on in real life. Most shows shy away from the issue.

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In the character he played, the character had no idea about the misery he caused, he was punished for his "sins" by being jailed for something he didn't do. It wasn't until the reveal of the love of his life setting him up to be charged with murder(her murder while committing suicide)that he understood that whether or not that he killed her by his own hands his love died because of his abuse. It was actually poignant that at the end of his and our search to the mystery of his wrongful imprisonment he ended up being punished for his abuse of her in a somewhat incorrect but somewhat deserved way and in doing so suffered because he knew he didn't kill her and was angry and tortured about the situation he was in (prison) and mirrored, in a sense, her imprisonment to him.

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that was well done. I just think the whole Rockfish stuff kind of played up to Isaac being a loveable goon that didn't jibe with the rest of it.

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I think that he had somewhat redeemed himself by the episode "A Second Chance" which also featured Dionne Warwick as a guest star. (Also had Malachi Throne and Tony Burton in the episode as well.) One of the better scenes was when Gandy was telling people at this cheesy waterfront dive to be quiet while Dionne Warwick was singing.

There was also a hilarious scene where Rockford comes back after finding out Joe Moran's address, to find Gandy had broken into his trailer and was waiting on his couch. ("Okay, you're gonna fix that window, and you're gonna pay for the parts!") Jim makes himself a sandwich while telling Gandy that it's a domestic case and he's done with it, but before he can get any further, Gandy punches him squarely in the jaw and knocks Jim out. He finds Joe Moran's address in Jim's notebook, gently lays Jim out on the couch and covers him up, and then takes his sandwich! Taking the sandwich was the perfect touch.

Later on, Jim confronts Gandy who was wondering if Jim was still mad "about that little tap I gave you?" "Little tap?!?" 

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Too bad the "Gandy and Gabby" show never materialized.

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"Coconut" and "oil slick" were used on "Rockford".

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It's a McCarthy-like witch hunt today, with the seeming goal of being the faction that can whine the loudest.

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I can't freakin' believe that he/she/it called you a racist!

Anyway, I never much cared for Isaac Hayes either. I think he should stick to singing.

BTW, I'm curious if your "Jimmyberluti" reference refers to The Practice?


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Agree about the overrated Hayes.

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I agree with the OP. The character was a bully, tho he had a big heart. You don't knock out someone who can help you.

If I was Rockford, and he knocked me out cold, I would have told him that I would shoot him dead if he ever came at me again.

"Or you won't believe what happens next, even while it's happening."

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Since Jim was in jail for something that he didn't do, he could identify with Gandy. At the time Hayes did the episode with Dionne Warwick, they were dating. I thought Hayes brought Fitch to vivid life, he was a very complicated man (and, no, I'm not trying to make a Shaft joke).



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I thought the Gandy character was OK. Maybe we would've seen him again if the show hadn't been cancelled.

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