Why? - Turks fruit (1974) Discussion

[–] missyamerica18 19 years ago

Honestly, I don't really know the answer to this. I read in one review that the film was supposed to convey reality in all of its forms. There was also talk about it reflecting Erik's immature and chaotic personality. Either way, it was pretty gross. (Laugh)

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[–] spookie2890 19 years ago

one stereotype about holland is actually true, NOT that we examine our own waste lol, but that the toilets have a plateau thing on them for examiniong ur own waster haha. i read about it somewhere and i blushed, cuz my family owns a toilet like that lol.

-spoox

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[–] jk_psx 19 years ago

The toilets with the plateau are nice. Yes, you can check your turd and no, your ass won't get wet when you go to the toilet :)

But Erik doesn't check his turd now does he ? He checks Olga's turd to see why it is red, she thinks she has cancer because her mother did.

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[–] spookie2890 19 years ago

yeah exactly.. coincidentally it was on last night so i watched it and yeah

-spoox

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[–] Tristan!-2 18 years ago

Not his crap, but hers. She is convinced she has bowel cancer (her mother used to have breast cancer, remember?) when she sees her faeces are red. He has a look at her faeces and diagnoses the redness as being because she ate beetroot the night before. Were you not paying attention? ;-)

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[–] missyamerica18 18 years ago

You know, the more I watch this film and this scene the more I am not disturbed by it. In all honesty, as nasty as it is, it is also very poetic and sincere. How many people would honestly check their significant other's bowl movements for signs of blood? So, yes, it is an unpleasant scene but it does make a strong point. Eric loved Olga so much that he didn't even give it a second thought. There is something very powerful about that, in my humble opinion. Then again, it could be a cultural difference. I have never visited the Netherlands so I wouldn't know. Either way, it makes a powerful point.

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[–] Lady_sorrow 18 years ago

lol, seriously i go on holidays to the Netherlands ALL the time and u really CANT look at ure crap, cos they have odd toilets, haha

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[–] snowbart 18 years ago

lol, seriously i live in the Netherlands ALL the time and u really CAN look at your crap, cos we've got odd toilets, haha. (Seems quite handy though when you think you've got cancer)

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[–] esh04676 18 years ago

Well, this is an interesting discussion! I like the perceptive commment that Erik looked at Olga's feces because he loved her so much. And indeed quite seriously that would be true love. BTW in his book "Symptoms" Dr. Alexander Rosenfeld recommends that we all check out our stools and other bodily discharges to see "early warnings" of health conditions that may need medical attention. So maybe the Dutch with their special design toilets have it right--as they do in so many things.

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[–] terminator_battle 18 years ago

WHY DO THE ZOOM IN ON THE DOG WHILE ITS TAKING A CRAP?>!

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[–] Stryker-X 17 years ago

What the crap are you talking about?

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[–] runar-4 17 years ago

Fear of cancer is a recurrent theme in the movie - Olga's parents, and Olga herself all have brushed against it. As I posted in a different thread, cancer was much more feared even as little as 35 years ago. It's still considered a "dread disease" despite improvements in treatment.

Any blood in the toilet, be it urine or feces, is a good reason to head for the ER right away.

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[–] prettynoose59 17 years ago

How did this thread go from a question about a scene from Turks Fruit to a discussion about "early detection" and the dread of bowel and possibly colon cancer. I don't usually laugh easily but this is the limit. But seriously rectal, bowel and colon cancers are no joke.Lf I was on the throne and saw blood red poop I'd be terrified. I think it was a very well acted scene. Kudos to Rutger and Monique. One of my top fav films and it has been since the 70's.

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[–] shushens 16 years ago

It is very normal for any common man, my friend. A lot of people take a look anyway, without conciously making it a point. Verhoeven did not want to cut something out just because it's not modest to show it in motion picture. I don't think it has anything to do with chaotic or immature personality. If it does, then most of the people are immature and chaotic anyway and you have nothing to worry about :P

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[–] Siddhartha_Wolf 15 years ago

This is just one aspect of the realism of the movie. It is not afraid of - it does not censor - reality. *beep* happens, as they say. I watched this with a girl who found several scenes quite disgusting, and I was quite surprised that at the end she too could see that it was really justified, it was all a part of showing the highs and lows of love, and life. I love its honesty.

A golden egg, floating through space.

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