Forget Schindlers list


this is the best film to tackle the Shoah.

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Hey Pumpkin, did you watch this at the Barbican too?



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbican_Centre

It's a big art's centre in London that often shows old or foreign films. Several of Has' films were shown there this year, and they've proved so popular that an entire retrospective was planned.

Have you seen any of Has' other films?


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Yeah, I saw it at the Barbican. It's the only one of his films I've seen too, but I don't think I liked it enough to start tracking down his others.

I don't even know where "The Guildhall" is. I thought that was some kind of Parliament building. Or do you mean the guildhall in Gloucester? There are so many "guildhalls" all over the country.

EDIT: Check out the unrated cut of "Miami Vice" if you get the chance. I know you're heavily into poetic Korean and Asian films right now and want to know what you think. Mann's film is like an arty big budget Wong Kar-wai crime picture and its really grown on me with repeated viewings.



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It's the only one of his films I've seen too, but I don't think I liked it enough to start tracking down his others.


I've seen most of Wojciech Has' feature films, and none of them is like The Hour Glass Sanatorium. That's a pretty unique movie.

If you ever change your mind and decide to look further into his work, consider:

Petla if you like a dark, Bergmanesque tale http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052063/

Lalka for a somewhat Wajdaesque tale of love and money http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064570/

Saragossa Manuscript stories, stories, and more stories http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059643/


It ain't wise to be a jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving.

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"I haven't seen any of the chap's other films but i saw Altman's Buffalo Bill and was surprised at how good it was. That's definitely my favourite of his 70s output."

Mines too (or maybe McCabe and Mrs Miller). You can see why its so unpopular, though. It isn't a film so much as it is a jaunty dissection of the genre.


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No love for Quintet? Sheesh.

What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter.

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I like the first 40 or so minutes of "Quintet". It has atmosphere and mystery. But then when the film gets down to explaining itself, it gets pretty stupid. All these existential/boardgame motiffs are handled better in other films.

What I found interesting was the way Altman seemed to be playing with Bible lore, but these ideas never seemed to go anywhere.



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As much as I loved this strange movie, I must admit I have trouble seeing it as a movie about the Holocaust. I can slightly see it as the end of an era for a type of life Jewish communities lead in Europe, but the Holocaust implications are so tenuous they require a lot of imagination to be found.

This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel.

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I thought so too the first time I saw it, Eumenides, but watching it again, there even seems to be a subplot in which it is suggested that Jozef's father was killed by the Nazis for assisting or hiding Jews in his textile shop and that the shop itself is some meeting point for Polish Jews. Of course the surrealism is so dense, I could be completely wrong.

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nah the list is much better.



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I don't understand why this is being compared to Schindler's List.
I believe it is set in the period, and is duly doom-laden, and regularly references the lead character's Jewish upbringing, but I don't believe it is specifically tackling the themes of the holocaust. Unless there is some symbolism in the surrealism that went way over my head.

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Exactly! This has as much to do with The Holocaust as Kafka. Is before that terrible time.

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nah the list is much better.


you never miss a change to show off your love for mediocrity

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I thought the movie was more about the aftermath of the holocaust and WW2. I interpreted the crumbled sanatorium as a parallel to the poor condition of many institutions and manor houses in contemporary Poland and the state of the jewis and polish society in general at that time.

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