Requiem for Innocence


I am cross-posting this message on about 30 old horror films from pre-1980 in the hopes that somebody out there shares my despair. I am including "The Legend of Hell House" because people are knee-jerking requests for a "remake", despite the fact that EVERY remake of the past few years ALWAYS bombs and ends up vastly inferior to the original (EXCEPT for the CGI...whoop-dee-doo...).
This is sort of a message in a bottle. I am feeling very lonely from my experience of the last few moments:
It is nearing midnight on Halloween 2006. This evening I've been flicking through TV channels and getting very depressed. True I have my DVDs to rely on, but I find it sad that there are no good old-fashioned horror movie marathons. You would think you'd be able to rely on the Sci-Fi channel, but for some perverse reason they are showing some wrestling federation. What "professional wrestling" has to do with sci-fi is quite beyond me. Any other movie channel acknowledging Halloween is showing slasher films, the audience of which should probably make an appointment with a therapist.

For most of the past 25 years, the fun, the spookiness, the elegance, and the CLASS are all gone from horror films. Frankly, I hate to think what films I'd be watching if I were as "jaded" as today's audiences. I am in mind of a quote from the late Boris Karloff, the Grandmaster. A recent book on horror films recounted Boris talking to author Robert Bloch at a party, and Boris said: "There is nothing pleasant, nothing appealing about the word 'horror.' It doesn't promise entertainment. You and I, each in his own way, have devoted careers to providing chills, shocks, shudders. But we've done so only to amuse, to fulfill the same function as the time-honored teller of ghost stories who offers a few cold shivers to his audience in front of a warm fireplace on a winter's evening. No harm in that, surely. But I'll be blasted if either of us ever deliberately set out to horrify anyone. All this violence and brutality today, shown against a 'realistic' background -- now that's downright horrible!"

If you find these wonderful old horror films "lame", it's nothing to boast about, and I'd keep it to myself if I were you because it speaks more poorly about you than it does the film. To the contrary, it's quite sad if you find them lame. Most today think the only merit to a film is how good the CGI special effects are. Or how many times they employ the cheap "cheat" where they play an obnoxiously loud chord of music to jolt the audience out of their seats (whether anything frightening is happening on the screen at the time of the loud music blast is immaterial). How lazy the creators of good horror films have become and how sadder still for those who watch them. They've desensitized themselves in a way that denies them 50 years worth of classics. There is no sadder word to describe someone than to say they have become "jaded."

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I couldn't agree with you more.

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I concur. All sublety, characterization, and atmosphere has been tossed aside. I love the Val Lewton classics; The Haunting (I hate that I even have to signify it by saying the original. I saw the remake for free, and I still wanted my money back- it was so insipid!) The Innocents,is another terrific movie. I'll step down from my soapbox now- but I'm glad there are others who agree.

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I'm afraid they will always fail in remakes especially horror/thrillers.
There are many reasons which include hiring 'lookers' rather than actors but that's Hollycrap. A big reason is they think CGI is the star and the rest doesn't matter. Basically they don't have a clue how to make a decent film so they'll balls it up anyway. Do thye care? Course not, they want talentless stars and CGI to make cash and they don't care about the rest, only about money.


"Lucky to have the ability to see what i see, not what others 'see'"

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i like the word "elegance" to describe the horror movies pre-contemporary. but, as with the western, the elegance of filmed horror past is gone. movies like "the legend of hell house" they just don't make anymore. witness the appallingly bad (and special effects-laden) remake.
and, i too don't understand why the sci-fi channel - of all people - can't come up with a good horror film marathon on halloween? they can do "twilight zone" marathons...but, they do those on new year's eve!?
i also agree that slasher film fans are collectively in need of some serious therapy.
i can foresee a time when all the characters (including the ghostly and other supernatural ones) in horror movies will be cgi characters.
but, i'll still be watching my peter cushing and christopher lee (vincent price), peter lorre, coolly scary italian horror jobs, and american suspense, like "the exorcist"...with the lights on, and the sun shining, of course! (l.o.l.)

gregory 020507

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I'm quite a latecomer here, but I have to say that I totally agree. It's sad that older films are criticized so harshly when they're vastly better than nearly everything released not just nowadays but for many years, even decades, back. I spent the most wonderful evening recently, going to bed relaxed and smiling thanks to this lineup from TCM:
The Wolf Man ~ Lon Chaney, Jr., of course
The Uninvited ~ Ray Milland, of course
Dead of Night (1945)
I Walked with a Zombie
Cat People (1942)

Now, THAT is class! I've also revisited such excellent old films as these:
Night of the Demon aka Curse of the Demon
House on Haunted Hill ~ Vincent Price, of course
The Tingler ~ another they intend to remake!
House of Wax ~ most definitely Vincent Price!
Horror of Dracula
The Legend of Hell House ~ twice tonight thanks to Fox Movie Channel

All of these helped make up for the disappointment of newer films that I really tried to give a chance but bailed out of because of unnecessarily explicit gore, gratuitous nudity/sex (I feel so sorry for the foolish actresses who reduce themselves to this!), and characters it's difficult to care anything about. The closest I've come has been "Forget Me Not", which really surprised me. I'm not saying that all modern horror is a waste of time; some are giving it an old-style try. But, so much of it IS just horrible, not horror.

I shall continue to treasure these older films, many of which I've watched well over 100 times in my nearly 60 years of life. I'd rather watch even one of the poorer older ones a dozen more times than some "torture porn"-style offering.

~~MystMoonstruck~~

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I think pygmalion's assertion that theatrical horror is acceptable while gore/slasher horror isn't to be pretty hypocritical. Some people are entertained by psychological disturbance; some are entertained by being grossed out. Yes, the latter is different in a matter of degree, but not breed. Either way the viewer is choosing to see something that in reality, they would find distressing. Perhaps the OP's disturbance is one of having the fantasy of horror films shattered?

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Yes, someone else shares your despair 15 years after you posted your post. I just watched this movie for the first time and it's now September of 2021. Movies like this one, "The Changeling", "Carnival of Souls", and the original Universal monster movies remind me how special atmospheric horror movies are and how sad it is that movies like this aren't made any more.

You are not alone (assuming you're still alive).

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