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My take on this film, anyone share the same view?


I watched Badlands for the first time yesterday. I didn't have a clue what the movie was about before I watched it.

The movie had me glued to the screen from the moment it started. The well thought-out characters, great acting and seamless, stunning cinematography all had a mesmerizing effect on me.

About halfway through Badlands I started to wonder how the plot would develop. For some reason, I was expecting a twist in the story, a disintegration of the couple (Kit and Holly) or a grand finale where their way of life would catch up with them and where justice would be served. However, this twist didn't come.

After the movie had finished, I didn't quite comprehend what I had just watched. The mesmerizing effect of the characters and the pace of the movie, along with the beautiful photography, had a blurring effect on the horrific lifestyle the couple led.

It wasn't until a couple of hours after watching Badlands that I realized, as if it had just caught up with me, what a haunting movie it actually is. I think this is because the evilness in the movie is portrayed in a very empty, unromantic way. The movie's atmosphere seems to distill, yet distract the disturbing actions of the couple at the same time. Thinking about what I had just saw, I was left somewhat distraught, realizing this was a very intrusive portrayal of twisted individuals who are detached from what most people feel or think.

That's my take on it, anyway.

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I just saw it recently too. It may be useless to speculate what a Terrence Malick film is "about", but to me one important theme in the movie was how innocence can be corrupted when met with extreme evil. Holly had a very troubled background and home life, yet still somehow retained her innocence. But when she falls in love with Kit and is forced to deal with his behavior, all her bad experiences and poor upbringing lead her to partake in a life of violence.

I could not agree more that what makes this movie so haunting is the fact that it is told in such a matter-of-fact way. Many directors probably would have attempted to psychoanalyze the characters. This would be futile, since I don't think there is any real way to know what goes on the minds of people like Holly and Kit.

As for there being no twists in the movie, I think that's what makes it hold up after repeated viewings. Movies that rely too much on a plot twist can be rather pedestrian after the first couple of times you see it. That's my experience, at least.

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Kit and Holly were not experiencing those "wonderful Eisenhower years" like a lot of folks on TV and commercials. A dead decade with false values.

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Kit and Holly were sociopaths of the type that are found everywhere any time. They stood out only because of their time and place: the myth of the snoozy Eisenhower years, a decade which in any case seems dead and false only to those with a superficial knowledge and understanding of the era. Similar personalities who emerged in more "alive and genuine" times like the 60s or 70s seemed to be less exceptional only because so much overt mayhem on a larger scale was happening.

A good film, not as great as some say but extremely well done and frightening in its depiction of the "banality of evil". Holly in particular struck me as the more psychotic of the two because she had no empathy or even much grasp of the effects of Kit's shooting people, just an emotionless cipher. Yet she was not unintelligent.

The real Charles Starkweather/Caril Fugate killing spree was much more deadly and heartless than even what's depicted in this film, which uses variations on the real pair's actual murders for most of the killings it depicts. Starkweather murdered 11 people and killed two dogs as well. (Caril Fugate's father never killed her dog, as Warren Oates does in the movie.) One victim was Caril's 2-year-old step-sister, whom Charlie strangled and stabbed to death. They did break into a rich man's house but killed the wife, the maid and the husband when he came home -- no one was spared as shown in the movie. The young couple they killed in the storm cellar had picked them up along the highway. Starkweather shot the boy and tried to rape the girl but couldn't perform, whereupon he murdered her and an apparently jealous Fugate mutilated the corpse's vaginal area. Other killings took place that were not replicated in the movie, and the ones that were depicted were worse than in the film. There is also reason to believe Fugate took part in some of the killings as well, but she got off with life.

It's curious that Malick used so many of the details of the real killers' actions for his fictionalized Kit and Holly, yet pulled back from showing the worst deeds they committed. It was almost as though he was trying to evoke some sympathy for these two maniacs. This isn't uncommon among filmmakers dealing with stories about mass murderers. Richard Brooks falsified many of the facts to evoke some sympathy for the real-life killers he depicted in his adaptation of Truman Capote's In Cold Blood in 1967.

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that's what they call existentialism.

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The movie is about love plain and simple, Kit does everything he can to keep Holly with him, including killing, he wasn't killing for fun, then when he gets caught in the end, his attitude was "oh well I tried my best" And he makes Holly laugh and smirk even in the final scene.

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yeah i know what you mean, it's truly unique in it's execution




so many movies, so little time

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