Can somebody explain what is going on with the timetraveling in the Yesteryear-episode?
What changed in the timeline so Spock got removed from it? As I understand it they where traveling to "the dawn of civilization of Orion" and that somehow changed history on Vulcan just 30 years back?
I don't get it!
From what I gathered, history changed because Spock didn't also travel back to the era of his childhood before returing from the gateway's vortex, thus he didn't fulfill the predestined role as his own cousin in saving his younger self's life. Those still on the Gaurdian's planet (at least Kirk anyway) weren't effected because, as we saw in "The City on the Edge of Forever", those still within range of the gateway are immune to changes in the timeline (much like the Enterprise-E in the movie events of First Contact). Spock mentions a recollection of a cousin that helped him at a crucial time and with history changing seemingly for no reason, this proved he was fated to fulfill a predestination paradox, simply not knowing this during his first trip and that's why history changed.
The only difference from what Spock remembers in his youth to his trip back in time turns out to be the death of his pet, a curious difference. Kinda makes me wonder, did he go to his actual past or the past of his alternate reality counterpart from the 2009 film? Okay, now my head hurts.
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The pet dying doesn't really make sense. It was a stable time loop, so everything should have transpired exactly the same. If things happened even slightly differently each time then eventually the time loop would break down entirely.
One possible solution is that Spock had simply forgotten that his pet had died, but this seems unlikely for a number of reasons, the main one being that in this particular time loop, making the decision to euthanize his pet was a major turning point in young Spock's life when he finally decided to fully embrace his Vulcan heritage. He wouldn't have just forgotten something like that.
As the episode itself explains it, Spock himself was the "cousin" named Selek who saved his life as a boy, but he was in Orion's distant past with Kirk while the others replayed some recent Vulcan history on the Guardian. Since Spock "couldn't be in two places at once," he wasn't there to save his younger self as the history was replayed.
That explanation doesn't seem to me to make a great deal of sense on closer analysis, but there you go.
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How can Spock himself be the "cousin" named Selek who saved his life as a boy?
When Spock died in the past an alternate timeline was created
If Star Trek TAS was canon there would be two alternate timelines in the Star Trek franchise.
One with Star Trek 2009 and the other with Star Trek TAS Yestyear
The only differnce is that Star Trek TAS alternate timeline was restored
Although I really liked Star Trek 2009 it could of been possible to reboot
Star Trek by using Star Trek TAS yesteryear episode that will have to make sure that Spock does not restore the timeline by saving his life as a boy.
"Could of" has no meaning in English, as anyone with a sixth-grade education knows.
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The time travel mechanics in this episode make very little sense when you sit down and try to think about it. That's just par for the course with the franchise, though.
If this is a consular ship, where is the ambassador?
Makes you wonder why anyone would ever use the Guardian for any reason?
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he was in Orion's distant past with Kirk while the others replayed some recent Vulcan history on the Guardian. Since Spock "couldn't be in two places at once," he wasn't there to save his younger self as the history was replayed.
That explanation doesn't seem to me to make a great deal of sense on closer analysis, but there you go.