I don't get it


I did not find this movie gross, offensive, cruel, disturbing, funny, and most of all entertaining in any sort of way. Honestly I see no way anybody could find it entertaining unless they have horrible taste. I asked the fan that showed what the point was? Did it not have a point? Was it trying to be terrible? Was it trying to be offensive? He didn't really know he just said it was great. He is a huge tool though. Anyways, I think I know what the movie purpose was though. The purpose was to distinguish lame just all around gay(in the non-literal term) 'tools' that are the fans from the rest of the world. But how did it become a hit? Anyways.. it's the worst movie I've ever seen because it has zero entertainment value. I believe it is the first movie that I have ever not liked. I do think 'Cry Baby' is an alright movie though. Who knows why this movie is famous, but beside that God help the fans.

Do right and be rewarded. Do wrong and be punished. Believe the stories.

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The movie was made for the exact reasons you stated... to be terrible and offensive and annoy people... and to make lame-ass idiots like yourself complain about how bad it is. Simple as that.

I mean, it clearly effected you in some way, cuz you came all the way on here just to b!tch about it... so quit pretending like you're some special f!!cking person just cuz you claim the movie has no "entertainment value"... when you were so obviously entertained by it!

If John Waters read your post he would laugh at your sheer stupidity... for falling directly into the hole he so neatly dug for you...




I wish I were a Warhol silk screen hanging on the wall...

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Gah, what a really, really nice gal.

Do right and be rewarded. Do wrong and be punished. Believe the stories.

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Yes but even if thats Water's established motive for making it, a bad movie is still a bad movie, winking irony and jokes on all the squares or not.In fact, it could be construed as pretty cowardly on the director's part because he's not even engaging with the audience in anything but smug complacency & detachment; 'i made a crappy looking, offensive film so even if you say its crappy & offensive I've beaten you to the punch already so your not saying anything i don't already know and you're unhip & probably an uptight straight Christian peg for taking it so seriously'. Proudly proclaiming at the top of your lungs that you're an annoying a$$hole doesn't make you less of an annoying a$$hole; No wonder homosexuals love this one.

It's not a fallback that automatically defuses a film's flaws

I like it a bit, its still mesmerizing in its utter vulgarity, like a home movie of mental patients attention-whoring for the camera, just so ugly you can't look away, car crash psychology. I like that kind of underground rawness, but I won't deny it isn't completely sick either, no matter its wonderful texture. Not actually very funny either once you get past the circus side show of freaks, geeks & assorted perverts mugging for the screen & the historical value it holds for being one of the first widely recognized gross-out comedies.

Female Trouble is alot funnier

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It's funny and fascinating. I was 18 when I first saw it; I'm 52 now, own the dvd and have seen the film about a hundred times. When it played at midnight years ago, my friends and I went every week for a year. So I guess you either "get it" or you don't. Either way is fine.

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An original midnight movie attendee, that does sound like fun. Can I ask what about it fascinates you particularly?

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It started me on a life long love for Divine. After Female Trouble, Divine appeared in two off Broadway plays:Women Behind Bars and The Neon Woman. I also attended those numerous times. Of course he then went on to play sympathetic characters in Polyester and Hairspray. His death in 1988 was a real blow to myself as well as my friends. As for Pink Flamingos, the utter bizarre nature of it ie Edie in the playpen, the hilarious Mink Stole, the garish makeup, the Baltimore accents, and ESPECIALLY the fact that Waters has Divine as this low common dirt bag use expressions such as "It would be a prudent move on their part", well, it just cracks me up and yes, fascinates me!

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Crybaby? You think it's better than Pink Flamingos? Aside from the fact that established actors were employed (Johnny Depp, Amy Locane, and the legendary Iggy Pop [a musician high above being an actor but in a few films and well-known, nonetheless]), it is a glossed-over, predictable, mainstream Hollywood film which catered to a much larger audience. I admit, it has it's great points (the contrast between Traci Lords' character & her parents; Johnny Depp's deliciousness; most of Hatchet-Face's highlights), but it's hardly as original or innovative as John Waters' earlier films ( with the exception of Desperate Living) and certainly not as charmingly whimsical as Pecker.
But I digress, although I may be a bit of a cinema snob I thoroughly enjoy Hairspray (not referring to that new millennium disaster starring John Travolta in a fat suit reprising a role that Divine already perfected). I'd definitely recommend that if you want to watch an excellent John Waters film which also includes some more obscure (but dynamite) 60's R&B songs. Great cast, too. I'd check out Polyester, as well--one of Waters' more obscure films, but not nearly as offensive as PF or even Female Trouble yet entertaining, for sure. I even found Serial Mom to be a better-executed film than Crybaby (Kathleen Turner murdering Patty Hearst for wearing white after Labor Day is an ultimate societal satire).
My point: first, you answered all your own questions--Pink Flamingos is touted by Waters as being "an exercise in bad taste." Bad, which means "not good." That's the point of the film: to shock, disgust, sicken and infuriate, and to make the audience experience at least two of these emotions.
Second, one should see a number of Waters' films before judging him based on only one or two. I'd recommend saving Cecil B. Demented, Desperate Living, and A Dirty Shame for last if you're gonna go all-out, as I believe they are his weakest executions, and first go with Hairspray and Polyester as your starting point.

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I'd recommend saving Cecil B. Demented, Desperate Living, and A Dirty Shame for last if you're gonna go all-out, as I believe they are his weakest executions, and first go with Hairspray and Polyester as your starting point.



Cecil B. Demented is an acquired taste. Hated it the first time. Now it's one of my favorites.

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Your response is exactly why it was made. To encite hate and gross people out.

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I understand that it was created as an exercise in bad taste, and while I don't hate it or find it at all offensive, I don't find it to be at all enjoyable, either. I can see where the OP is coming from. Why would I watch this? Bad taste for the sake of bad taste is a valid artistic exercise, I guess, but it doesn't do anything for the entertainment factor (IMO).

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It entertains me very very much. I am so grateful for the existence of this movie.

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Why do the fans need to be helped? I'm a fan and I live a completely normal life.

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