Whatever happened to...?


Whatever happened to the group's clown, Joe? You know, the guy who kept making jokes and jumped out from behind the Van Helsing tombstone with a mask on. Maybe I missed a line of dialog somewhere but it seemed like he just disappeared halfway through the movie. I kept waiting for him to show back up!

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After the police talk to Jessica at her grandfather's house, they discuss going to bust up a party in order to detain and interview Jessica's friends.
A bit later, the police discuss having to let the "kids" go, and releasing them to their parents. None of that is actually shown to us, only talked about. I guess we are to assume that Joe got grounded. Bummer. It might have been a nice touch if Joe were to stumble into the final scene, and draw a smiley face in Dracula's ashes,like Peter MacNicol in the ending of Dracula, Dead and Loving It. Well, maybe not. I would like to have seen Christopher Lee's reaction if someone were to have suggested it though.

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XD That would have been hilarious. I found another thing odd about the movie. Like how Bob, after being turned, ends up dead(permanent dead) for no apparent reason in the church graveyard.

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I recently watched the DVD again, and noticed the same thing. In looking at the scene, notice the partially opened tomb near where he is at. Are we to assume that he tried to push the slab away at sunrise, but ran out of time, or was not strong enough to move it alone? This would only lead to at least two more questions. First, Why wouldn't a vampire be strong enough to move the lid off the tomb? Second, Why wouldn't he have turned to dust by the time VH arrives later in the day? Anyway, if that was what they were trying to convey, they didn't even stage the shot correctly. His body (or what little should have been left of it) should have been closer to, if not right on top of, that tomb slab. Then again, maybe John Alucard killed him after they delivered Jessica. It is possible that there were deleted scenes we don't know about. Either way, he should have been a bit dissolved by the time the Professor arrives to rescue his granddaughter. It's still an entertaining movie though.

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Alucard himself didn't disolve after his death, which by the way, is the funniest death I have ever seen.(Death by shower) I don't think that Bob was killed by Alucard. There were no other wounds on the body when VH found him. Also the "he couldn't get the sarcophagus open is BS. Vampires are noted to be about 10x stronger than a mortal man. So it was definitely a loose end.

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Maybe he used a shower in the church, and then he stumbled outside and died? Perhaps when he left the nightclub, the flying monkeys from The Wizard of Oz picked him up and dropped him there? Maybe that was one of the last scenes filmed, they realized they had to dispose of Bob somehow, so they told the actor to just play dead and hope nobody notices how silly it looks? Perhaps the actor was tired and fell asleep on the set, they couldn't wake him, and didn't want to waste film on another take? Whatever way we try to look at it, it just doesn't add up. There is either a deleted scene, a scene that was in the script but not filmed, and/or they screwed up the staging of the shot. It's still a fun a movie to watch.

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I know, but it's fun to poke fun at it's silliness.

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Does anyone know which dracula movie it was that had the beautiful girl who said to Van Helsing (I think), "I'd like to go with you, if you'll have me". To which he responds, "Oh, I'll have you". That was one of the best one-liners I've ever heard and I cannot remember which movie it was - Please help!

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You were on the right track. It's not Dracula A.D. 1972. The film you are remembering was indeed a Hammer production, and it did have the sexy Caroline Munro in it. The scene you are remembering is:

Kronos: "I suppose you'll be moving on then?"

Carla: "No, I'm staying...if you'll have me."

Kronos: "Oh,...I will have you."


It's from the 1974 Hammer film Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter, starring Horst Janson as the title character, the very lovely Caroline Munro as the beautiful peasant girl whom Kronos rescued from the stocks, and the marvelous John Cater as Kronos's hunchbacked sidekick Prof. Hieronymos Grost.

This was, in my opinion, one of Hammer's finest vampire films; and, it's available on DVD at Amazon.com

Incidentally, I've twice met Caroline Munro at autograph shows, and she is even more stunning in person. She's also one of the nicest people I've met at such events.



"The name, is Horace!"---Fat Kid, The Monster Squad

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Bob lost the will to live after reading the rest of the script.

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Quite right. Remember when VH is running through the streets and cool chick just randomly pulls up in her car and ever-so-helpfully provides him with Alucard's address?

She was one of the party kids and fills in the missing background of where the kids went (sorta kind of).

"If you don't know the answer -change the question."

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Bob's death scene was filmed. There is a still from it in Wayne Kinsey's book 'Hammer Films: the Elstree Studio Years', but it was cut from the final print late on in the editing process, presumably to speed up the action. There is no doubt, though, that AD72 leaves a number of loose ends - for example, what are the police doing while Van Helsing is dispatching Dracula?

Also, this is only a minor point but it bugs me every time I watch the film - Lawrence Van Helsing is Jessica's great-great-grandfather, not, as Stephanie Beacham states when she sees his gravestone, her great-grandfather. Peter Cushing gets it right when he refers to Lawrence as his grandfather - of course, he couldn't be his father, as he pegged it in 1872!

If they move, kill em!

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Van Helsing asked the Inspector to stay away from the church at his earlier meeting at Scotland Yard: "One hour from sun down. That is all I ask"

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You're right, of course. But I can't help wondering what Van Helsing told Inspector Murray once it was all over!!



If they move, kill em!

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Joe was the s#@t!!!!

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Love this one. I always thought Bob was killed at Sunset and didn't have enough time to secrete himself away in time(new powers, invincibility mania maybe?) and the reason he didn't decay is simple. When a Vampire dies, it will revert to it's correct age in human terms. So Dracula,being five hundred years old will turn to dust but like the Vampire woman in Dracula,she became an old hag in her coffin after being staked,so Bob who had only recently perished,assumed his true human appearance after death as well...

Shut the door Mary.......

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Hey, Phoyah, that idea about the age of the vampire determining their state of decay is downright genius. You should write a vampire script just to use it...

"Duck, I says..."

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Joe was awesome man

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