Assume for a moment that they'd never encountered the hillbillies. Taking two inexperienced city boys down that river just cos he wanted to see it and needed some buddies to go with was wreckless in the extreme. As shown in the events that followed the rape, that river was a deathtrap, he put all their lives in danger just so he could play 'Tarzan'. I'm glad he got a knacked leg, he deserved it.
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I did say 'assume they never met the hillbillies' - so his macho murdering spree doesn't come into it.
He risked their necks on that trip. And when he was driving like a moron in the forest.
Maximum a-hole quotient for Lewis of the Knacked Leg.
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He saw Bobby as very woman-like
As a woman, may I ask what was woman-like about Bobby?
^I've lived in America for more than half my life and I love a good American joke as much as the next person.
shareYes, Lewis fell very short of the fashionable, modern, "Metro-Sexual man, aesthetic. However in some survivalism scenario, one might be glad there was someone like this to commit violence and go all prehistoric, hominid, and carnal.
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Well, isn't it obvious that he's sort of a villanous character? At the beginning I for sure thought he'd something really horrible against them, but then his leg got broke and he screamed like a little girl...
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I find it hard to believe that Burt Reynold's character, being as totally obnoxious as it is, could have these kinds of people for friends in the first place.
I mean, picture Ronny Cox at a BBQ's at Burt's double wide, with his guitar saying "come on gang! Let's all hold hands and sing "Kum By Ya!" LOL!
What in the name of all that's holy did they have in common?
Maybe the Jon Voight character and Burt had some kind of connection, but with the others?
For the most part, we make friends with people who are like ourselves, etc.
We might have some acquaintences on the rim of our circle that are "not like us" but when it comes to something like "going down a river" we're gonna draw on our friends.
Lewis asked Ed in the truck what kind of work Bobby did, so I don't think they knew each other well. It seemed from those first scenes that Drew and Bobby were both Ed's friends, who was Lewis' friend - and Lewis was the one who suggested the trip. They definitely knew each other from before, but it was hardly "four best buddies" going on a canoe trip.
shareI find it hard to believe that Burt Reynold's character, being as totally obnoxious as it is, could have these kinds of people for friends in the first place.
I mean, picture Ronny Cox at a BBQ's at Burt's double wide, with his guitar saying "come on gang! Let's all hold hands and sing "Kum By Ya!" LOL!
What in the name of all that's holy did they have in common?
Maybe the Jon Voight character and Burt had some kind of connection, but with the others?
For the most part, we make friends with people who are like ourselves, etc.
^I agree. This can happen in real life, there is usually one focal point person that everyone is friends with, in this case Ed. Lewis was friends with Ed. Then Drew and Bobby came along as Ed's friends. This happens plenty of times in real life and wasn't that far fetched to me. I mean in high school or college you may have 4 best buddies who are totally alike hanging out, but in the adult world often you have guys who are not of the same breed hanging out for fun, usually through one focal point person that everyone is friends with.
And most people here will probably want to identify with either Ed and Lewis anyways. Some people perhaps Drew, and I can't imagine anyone wants to announce they are the weak man that gets raped like Bobby.
For the most part, we make friends with people who are like ourselves, etc
No, mate, I think you shouldn't judge Lewis too hard.
Remember that if the canoes collided and one of them broke (which lead to the accident that caused all the trouble and Lewis' broken leg) was only due to that retard Drew, who was actng like a *beep* crybaby and couldn't live with the fact that he and his friends buried an irrational knife-toting, gun-loving, anal-raping, sonuvabitching hillbilly in the ground where he belonged.
If Drew wasn't a sissy, nothing more would have happened than Bobby having to get some stitches up his ass.
I liked him, he was an adventurer.
I bet if you were about to be raped and someone had the courage to shoot an arrow through the aggressor you wouldn't call him an *beep*
just so he could play 'Tarzan'
i agree with you alexlarge. lewis was a man with an ego problem. he thought he knew it all and knew nothing at the same time. as ed said to lewis, "you have all the answers".
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shareA man who likes adventure and the outdoors and gets thrills from danger is an *beep* Just how does that work???
Isn't that the basis for all this EXTREME crap that goes on now???
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Look at the exhilaration on the faces of the men when they first passed through the river rapids. You could tell it was an experience that they all wanted, but they were all -- save Lewis -- fearful to try. Well, it was Lewis who made that happen. Did he get them into a very precarious situation? Absolutely. But life can sometime happen upon one of those instances, and if it does, wouldn't you want a guy like Lewis around?
Lewis was the one who took them on a liberating adventure that they all secretly yearned for. And as he says in the movie, "Sometimes you have to lose yourself before you can find anything."