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Bobby takes the rape really well?


Just finished watching this again on netflix and I gotta say Bobby holds up pretty damn well after getting raped! I mean *beep* you'd think he would be a bit more shaken up after that! Literally right after he gets raped in the ass by a hillbilly hes up and acting more or less normal...

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Maybe it wasn't his first rodeo.

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I thought so too. I mean right after the incident he was in shock. But, after that he seemed like nothing had happened. He was more concerned about getting caught. But, seeing him eating dinner with those people like nothing happend, and John Voight was the one who broke down I was like, wth?! Shouldn't it be reversed.

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I thought so too. I mean right after the incident he was in shock. But, after that he seemed like nothing had happened. He was more concerned about getting caught. But, seeing him eating dinner with those people like nothing happend, and John Voight was the one who broke down I was like, wth?! Shouldn't it be reversed.


Of course not. Bobby's primary concern was that nobody outside the group hear about the rape. So strong was his need for secrecy, to not be embarrassed, that it would overwhelm any inclination to cry in public, for that would lead to the question "what's wrong?"

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That is very understandable but when John Voight broke down at the dinner table no one asked him what was wrong they just kept on taking and eating.

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That is very understandable but when John Voight broke down at the dinner table no one asked him what was wrong they just kept on taking and eating.


Yep, I remember. I loved that scene. I thought Bobby did a wonderful job of moving attention away from Ed's breakdown to mundane, but happy, conversation about the corn and cucumbers. It made sense to me that Bobby would be better able to disassociate himself from his horrific experience because he seemed to deal more in appearances in his daily life. I could imagine Bobby, for example, being perfectly comfortable ripping off customers in some insurance scam, with a smile and a handshake for those very same people. Along those lines, I doubt he'd miss a wink of sleep deceiving the law, hiding bodies, etc., and was not quite smart enough to be overly concerned about getting caught. Ed and Drew were different in that way. Ed wasn't just plagued by the thoughts of seeing his friend killed and of putting an arrow in the throat of that hillbilly, but also by the fact that he'd have to live the remainder of his life hiding a big, big lie that could at any moment be the undoing of his idyllic suburban existence. The system was doing right by him up until the trip.

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Bobby's primary concern was that nobody outside the group hear about the rape. So strong was his need for secrecy, to not be embarrassed


Sounds like men who are on the downlow, except they repeatedly go out looking for anonymous and casual, quick relations with other men or transgenders, then they go back to their regular life as if they are simply good ol' heterosexual boys.

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Sounds like men who are on the downlow, except they repeatedly go out looking for anonymous and casual, quick relations with other men or transgenders, then they go back to their regular life as if they are simply good ol' heterosexual boys.


That's an utterly ignorant and offensive comment. A transgender person, in this particular case a transgender woman having relations with heterosexual men, has nothing to do with "other men". A transgender woman is a woman who was born with the wrong genitalia (the mind of a woman, the genitalia of a man). This is a disorder called Gender Identity Disorder or Gender Dysphoria, which requires both psychological and physical treatment. If she corrects that later on, preferably when she starts her puberty or even after that,via hormonal therapy and surgeries, she can live fully as a woman, both legally and physically. For all intents and purposes, many heterosexual men have sexual relations with, and actually marry to transgender women who are stealth, which means nobody knows they were born with the wrong genitalia and corrected that. The only people who know are their close relatives and surgeons. And FYI, many transgender women look more feminine than the average and even the very good looking cis women. The same goes for transgender men (men born physically as women), many FTM (female to male) men look actually more manly than average or even very manly men. Honestly it really upsets me how many poorly informed people make blank statements based on pure ignorance of the issue.

Bottom line, a man who has sexual relations or even falls in love with a true transgender-transexual woman, is 100% heterosexual. If he likes gay men (gay men are MEN in their minds, and don't pursue living as women legally and altering their bodies to become a woman), then this person is not heterosexual, he may be gay or bisexual. GENDER IDENTITY (being transgender) has nothing to do with sexual preference (being gay or bisexual). Geeez!!!

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I have to laugh at your comment because I'm a transsexual and transitioned 30 years ago at UTMB gender clinic in Galveston, Texas. It's total lie that most of them live stealth and nobody knows. Most I've known were not totally passable as females. With one, people would even Clock her in public as trans. I have no idea how she could get away with dating and marrying a man and no one would know as you claim, plus her sons and other family member do not refer to her as a "she" and "her," but as a male.

Even one I know who is a post-op transsexual brought a man home that she, at first, didn't think he knew but he came out and said he thought something was a little "off" about her, but didn't want to say anything. She went into a deep funk for several days after that because she thought she was fooling him. She never saw him again.

It's also a lie that trans are more feminine than genetic women. None I've known were like that. A few worked as caregivers, another worked as a security guard and others worked in motel or office house keeping as I do. Not exactly fem glamour queens. My only guess is you watch way too much she-male pornography. That's what it sounds like, a plot in a porno film you are relating but not reality. Also, if they live so stealth as you say, then how do you know they are transsexuals but no one else does? You're a liar.

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Your objectivity was so very refreshing for me, and just what I needed to see in the waning days of IMDb.

I've always considered myself very socially liberal, but I quite honestly find much of the movement these days to be a laughable embarrassment with their preposterously idealized conceptions of reality, rationalization of poor behaviour by perceived "allies", and general allergy to logic.

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Thank you for this

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Stfu. A man who has sex with another person born with testicles is doing a homosexual act. He's having sex with another man, no matter what that other man "identifies himself" as. As an example: if i boink a woman that "identifies" as a cat, am i then a zoophile or a straight man? It's highly offensive that you deny truth, science and logic. Shame on you.

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I gotta say Bobby holds up pretty damn well after getting raped! I mean *beep* you'd think he would be a bit more shaken up after that! Literally right after he gets raped in the ass by a hillbilly hes up and acting more or less normal...


I have a feeling it's because the scene was filmed over several days, or even weeks, so he didn't have the same emotions during the rape scene when it happened as in the next scene. I guess he couldn't stay in character very well.

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BugisStreetAnnie wrote:

I have a feeling it's because the scene was filmed over several days, or even weeks, so he didn't have the same emotions during the rape scene when it happened as in the next scene. I guess he couldn't stay in character very well.


The rape scene was done in one shot.

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Yeah, I thought that too.
He also becomes the most reliable person (moreso than Lewis) for Ed.
Unrealistic? Maybe. But I liked that character.


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Yeah agreed, he really does. The person you’d least expect to step up does.

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Yeah agreed, he really does. The person you’d least expect to step up does.

Drew was dead and Lewis had his femur bone poking through the skin of his right leg. Who else was left?

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Well somebody had to.

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I just meant that Lewis was the core strength of the group, he was the one the others depended on. After he was incapacitated it was up to Bobby to help Ed.

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I do agree that Bobby appeared initially to be somebody who might break down and be utterly useless. He avoided that and showed surprising grit, but it seems to me his contributions after Lewis went down are being a bit overrated. Ed did all the work climbing out of the gorge and putting an arrow through ol' toothless. Ed also had to save them a second time by finessing the cops after some of Bobby's missteps.

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Not to sound too crude but Bobby’s ass would’ve been pretty sore afterward, it’s probably a good thing he spent so much time in the water at the end, soothing lol.

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Makes sense to me. At first he's in shock, and then he's fixated on survival. Now, let me tell you, I'm gay, and the DL guys do NOT want to have any conversation about themselves typically. So a guy who's legit straight and didn't want it? He's not going to take the therapy approach to it, he doesn't want to keep talking about it and reliving it to his friends who were there for it, he wants to pretend it never happened. Never mind that they were so focused on survival that it really wasn't the time or place for a chat.

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Maybe he's still in survival mode up to the very end when the sheriff tells them to never come back. Perhaps his frame of mind was that he still had to pull himself together and maybe hide his trauma.

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