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What was the motivation for the mountain men?


What motivated them to hold the two guys captive and to rape the one guy? Obviously the two of them were gay lovers, did they just get bored with each other and they needed a change of pace?

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Why does anyone rape anyone? They were two sociopathic, inbred *beep* who saw a couple of vulnerable people out in the middle of nowhere and decided to harm them. That's all.

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That depends on whether or not you think the four men were being followed all along.

If this is the case then the attack was likely in large part motivated by a desire to show the men they are in hostile territory and that their presence is not wanted. They want to humiliate the wealthy civilized outsiders.

However you do get the serial killer vibe from the two mountain men. Their actions and mode of operation seem to suggest they have done this sort of thing before. I think they would have killed them when it was over.

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That's possible too. Either way, I think there's no "motivation" that would make sense to rational people. They were criminals and what they did was harm other people. Makes as much sense to ask "why" as it makes sense to ask "What was Henry Lee Lucas's motivation in killing a couple dozen people?"

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Silly question. They are mountain men with low IQ. Nothing better to do except watch the cars rust. They just wanted to get off. Unlike others who go home, have dinner and bang their old lady, these guys would screw a dead moose.

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Several of the posters in this thread seem to take it for granted that mountain men raping strangers at gun point is an everyday event. I am somewhat skeptical. Is there any evidence for such a belief?


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They were inbred, likely mentally ill and very likely intoxicated. You do the math.

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Several of the posters in this thread seem to take it for granted that mountain men raping strangers at gun point is an everyday event. I am somewhat skeptical. Is there any evidence for such a belief?


I don't know if I'd say it was an "everyday" event as it's doubtful that they ran into outsiders all that often, but there was a point where it seemed clear that this wasn't the first time they'd done something like this.

During the scene where Ed and Bobby first encounter them, the mountain men exchange a look between themselves. It occurs right after Bill Mckinney's character tells them "This here river don't go no where near Aintry(or Antry as he pronounces it)." Mckinney then looks at his partner and they stare at each other for a moment or two and seem to come to a silent agreement.
This brief moment between the men is very telling. The fact that they seem to be able to know what the other is thinking indicates that they've had some previous experience with this type of situation.

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Not sure where you're getting the conclusion that people here think it's "an everyday event." Which post are you referring to specifically?

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I still marvel at the naivete of that comment. Sure these guys are regular butt buddies just like in Brokeback Mountain. Probably exchange flowers on Valentines Day. "Obviously".
What occurred was just raw brute sodomy and exploitative abuse of two clueless and defenseless men. Probably not a regular thing... but if the opportunity was there... well why not? That's just a primal mindset without need of obvious explanation. (and unfortunately as old as time.)

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They were bullies and knew they could get away with it, and also it was some kind of power trip for them. There are people who, if they believe they could get away with it, would indulge in their innate sadism and bullying of others.

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I'm surprised no one brought up the mountain man's statement about "you look just like a hog" and "I think we got a sow instead of a boar" giving a clear indication these guys fuck anything. I seriously don't think either of them were gay but in such an isolated area, females (or at least females you aren't related too or bored in bed with) are quite rare and they wanted to humiliate them or get even for intruding on their territory. But also think back to the gas station and the other imbreds who were deformed and lacked social skills, etc same principle with the mountain men.

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The plot required it

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Territorial imperative issues, I imagine, as in "we're the people who really belong here (as in fauna), while you city guys are off your turf and we're gonna show you who's boss here". It never struck me as anything more. Also, these mountain men, backward and retarded as they seem and may well be, are human beings all the same, and this places seems several notches above the true creatures of the wild, whether bears, foxes, rabbits or wolves; and it makes them a hundred times more dangerous, if roused, as they're way smarter than the four legged critters who inhabit the area. Thus they're capable of true sadism; of inflicting pain and humiliation, knowing what they're doing, and getting a big kick out of it. I'm not so sure gayness is an issue in their behavior toward Bobby so much as the pleasure principal.

These wild men of the forest are almost too simple and simpleminded to have much in the way of motive, as most of us understand that word. They're sly, clever and straightforward; and they know enough to not give their game away before the final assault on Bobby and then, almost, Ed. Nor do they have an ounce of subtlety. The city guys do, and their subtlety and overall sophistication is, in the moments of their captivity, no help to them given the kinds of men they're up against. If anything their "knowing", their "understanding", in an empathetic sense, would not provided them with the material they needed to take on the psychopaths who are tormenting them. More likely it would inhibit them, slow down their reactions and, cause them to bungle what actions they do take, as indeed happens later in the film

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