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posted 16 years ago by dmaherishere
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Ok I am confused and be warned there are some spoilers.

In Escape from the planet of the apes, Cornelius explains how apes came to rule the earth. Some people may argue that in the first film it seemed as though all apes denied the fact that apes evolved from Humans and that humans were here first, however we know that they did know about humans, they just kept quiet.

My questions is how come Apes evolve so much quicker. I mean Cornelius himself says how it took centuries for the apes to evolve, and yet in Conquest which is set around 20 years after escape we see evolved apes, and in Battle, which is set 20 or so years after that, we see apes talking, how is it possible for all of these apes to have evolved in just 40 or so years?

[–] haristas 16 years ago

This is something the filmmakers just hoped no one would notice. They never explained how the apes evolved so fast. In fact, I think thy expected to to just accept that what you were looking at were just modern apes. That's why I think in the original film the makeup design works, but it's absurd in this film.

[–] hightp 16 years ago

I may be mistaken, but I believe I had read (perhaps in the novelized version of this movie) that the same space probe which brough about the extinction of the cats and dogs, also mutated the apes, making them smarter and larger. It could, at least, explain why apes couldn't talk in Conquest, but could in Battle.

[–] No 6 13 years ago

Hi there

I have read the novelisation and it does not mention anything about the virus which wiped out the cats & dogs affecting the intelligence of apes in anyway. Although it would explain this plothole very aptly.

It seems to be that the apes were somehow genetically altered by human scientists and their growth were 'sped up' to please the demands of consumers as Armnado (rather indirectly implied) when he said that people wanted bigger and bigger ape-pets.

"Be seeing you!"

No6

[–] Fletcherj119 11 years ago

The problem with this theory (apes being genetically altered) is the majority of the apes seen in the movie were shipped from foreign jungles. That's why I always thought having the revolution hundreds of years in the future would make theories such as genetic engineering of the apes entirely plausible.

[–] millsey72 (9547) 2 years ago

Yes, the virus that wiped out the dogs and cats made the apes smarter, therefore forming vocalizations to speak. I know of a few people who after getting Covid, were able to all of a sudden speak Chinese. So there is truth to the virus theory.

[–] Fletcherj119 11 years ago

The biggest problem with that theory (that the pet plague caused the apes to be smarter and larger) is that the plague began around 1983, so the majority of the apes seen in "Comquest" were born before then. So we're to believe each ape suddenly grew in size and multiplied their brain capacity?

[–] arkayenether 10 years ago

That's how it happened in Rise, so maybe? lol

[–] Fletcherj119 10 years ago

I guess we have to accept it.

[–] dollvalley 9 years ago

Seeing as they explained the switching lanes or futures in Battle (but didn't they also in previous ones?), they could have easily set the movie hundreds of years into the future without worrying viewers about screwing up the time frames mentioned in the previous movies as we were now in an alternate future due to Z&C coming to 1970s LA.

[–] Fletcherj119 9 years ago

That's what I would've done. Have Roddy play the leader; a descendant of Caesar.