MovieChat Forums > A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving (1973) Discussion > Woodstock is a cannibal! and other obser...

Woodstock is a cannibal! and other observations...


He devours that turkey with glee...what a monster! I'll bet that when the kids get to "grandmother's" house she cooks and eats one of them...probably Lucy since she mysteriously disappears in thie episode. She is on a serving platter with an apple in her mouth.

And another thing, why didn't Snoopy make a real dinner, he saved that s**t for himself and Woodstock, almost causing Charlie Brown to get the beatdown of a lifetime right in his own backyard.

And what is with Snoopy fighting a lawn chair! Who the hell keeps an alive lawn chair with obvious attack tendencies in their garage?!? Someone could have been seriously injured....although they would have deserved it because you could tell by the way the lawnchair had the garage set up that it was in its natural habitat. Snoopy's lucky he didn't get dealt with.

And another thing, who keeps 11 toasters in their house? I'll tell you who, Charlie Brown's Dad....who is very clearly a wife murderer and has been remarried 11 times.

Oh and Peppermint Patty is a lesbo.

Oh no! We broke Mom's favorite vase playing basketball in the house!
- Darth Vader

reply

[deleted]

I disagree. That turkey wasn't scavenged, it was murdered and cooked in Snoopy's "House of Death" and then eaten by Woodstock. If the turkey was lying on the road having been hit by Charlie Brown's Dad as he pulled away on the way to grandmother's house and they ate from the fresh carcas, you could call it scavenging. As we have it Woodstock is not only a cannibal but committed first degree, cold-blooded, premeditated murder....or at least was accessory to such things.

He can't even talk right, he just shouts jibberish.

Woodstock is obviously a maniac.

Oh no! We broke Mom's favorite vase playing basketball in the house!
- Darth Vader

reply

I was thinking the same thing. Woodstock is a douche!

PALIN in 2012, bitches!

reply

ANother thing is that they brought out two chairs to sit on and then Woodstock sat on the table and then Snoopy stood up to eat, leaving the two chairs empty.


I thought Woodstock eating turkey was bit demented too. I'm like what the??? That's like a cow eating a steak. Or a pig eating bacon. That's simply not done.



Take it easy. We're not making a western here.
~~Uncle Junior

reply

Pretty funny stuff. Although, I eat other mammals and I'm about as related to them as a canary* is a to a turkey.

*or whatever the heck Woodstock is

reply

At Bari Pork Store in Brooklyn, New York, there is a picture on the store's sign of a pig holding a sausage link. I $hit you not!

PALIN in 2012, bitches!

reply

[deleted]

I have additional observations after watching this year.

1. Why does the brother have to lay down a jive handshake? Is that something that blacks just do all the time? A black guy can't walk into a situation without bringin' some ghetto through the door with him? Charles Shultz is a racist.

2. I know what happened to Lucy in this episode now. Peter Griffin is what happened. ROADHOUSE!

3. Who's Dad gets called out of town on Thanksgivig? Peppermint Patty's divorced Dad that's who. I think we can safely assume he is an assassin.

4. This really struck me: The kids are whining about "ANOTHER HOLIDAY!" WTF is that? No child whines about any holiday. This just pulled me right out of the story. Not realistic AT ALL.


Oh no! We broke Mom's favorite vase playing basketball in the house!
- Darth Vader

reply

*CB doesn't like holidays because he's usually left out. My parents fought at holidays, so I have problems with 'em too.

*Schultz actually practiced integration by creating Franklin. I heard an editor [in Boston, no less] threatened to/or did cancel the strip for showing a black kid sitting with the White kids in school.

*Their were various screw-ups by the artists during the feast scene.

*Many birds, besides predatory birds like owls, eat other birds. I've seen blackbirds like starlings eat leftover fried chicken.

*The lawn chair was probably out of Snoopy's wild imagination.

*All the toasters were their lousy wedding gifts.

*Patty's a tom-boy, probably created to appeal to that demographic. Maybe she was a tom-boy because her dad was never home and she had to run things herself.

*Snoopy wasn't about to give his feast away to these people who normally just give him Junk-In-A-Can...

reply

good opservations

reply

I agree that Woodstock is a cannibal.

reply

So, three people have noe said that Woodstock is a cannibal. In engineering terms this is now validated....so he is.

Oh no! We broke Mom's favorite vase playing basketball in the house!
- Darth Vader

reply

Just did my annual watching and have some additional comments:

So, when the gang is late for dinner why is it Charlie Brown's fault and his duty to call Grandmother? What the hell are his parents doing? I'll tell you what his Mom is buried in the back yard. And certainly Dad is pooping on a Korean prostitute in the bedroom. I can draw no other conclusions.

And is Chuck such a loser that when he calls his own grandmother he has to say "It's Charlie Brown." This is sad. After getting rocks for Halloween and your own granny not recognizing your own voice it's almost time for an ambien overdose. Hope nothing goes wrong for him over Christmas....


Oh no! We broke Mom's favorite vase playing basketball in the house!
- Darth Vader Brady

reply

Birds eat other birds all the time.



He's taking the knife out of the Cheese!
Do you think he wants some cheese?


reply

Woodstock was a little birdbrain (literally) who apparently didn't understand
that he was eating another bird until Snoopy explained it to him in a Sunday
"Peanuts" strip several years later (11/24/1985). Woodstock sees a turkey cooking in a microwave and asks Snoopy about it. Snoopy explains that people
"sacrifice" animals to celebrate certain traditions. Woodstock is so shocked and
enraged that he trots up to Linus and kicks him in the ankle.

As a result of this strip, Charles Schulz received hate mail from an
enraged ultra-religious type who castigated him for using the word "sacrifice"
in the strip and accused Schulz of being "anti-Jewish," "anti-American," and
(gasp) brainwashed by vegetarians. The letter is featured in the book,
Peanuts: A Golden Celebration.






I'm not crying, you fool, I'm laughing!

Hewwo.

reply

"..brainwashed by vegetarians. "

Yeah, those EVIL vegetarians that AVOID contributing to the CRUELTY INDUSTRY and PAINFUL, BRUTAL, BLOODY MASS-MURDER of innocent animals!

How DARE they try to avoid consuming flesh of the innocent!! EVIL BRAINWASHERS!!11

reply

"Snoopy explained it to him"

It's weird how Snoopy can't explain anything in the specials / movies, because he can't talk. In the comics, he's not even a dog, he's an antropomorphized demon-people or something, I have no idea what the heck he's supposed to be.

In any case, why is Snoopy not shocked by it? I know dogs are carnivores, but he's always shocked even by some dog pun and dog sayings, but not ACTUALLY systematically industrially murdering all kinds of animals - people even eat bunnies, which Snoopy is a good friend of.

People even eat cats and dogs in Asia, but we're not supposed to know or talk about it, right? Because it's SO wrong to murder a dog and eat its bloody flesh, while it's SO right to do the same to a cow, pig, birds, bunnies, turkeys, frogs, camels, horses, you name it. Right?

Animal casually explaining the cruelty industry to another animal, and only that other animal being shocked about it, is weird and hypocritical in my opinion.

There's SO much hypocrisy going on with this topic anyway - vegetarians are seen as 'evil brainwashers', while those that psychopathically and cruelly murder and consume bloody flesh like demons, are seen as some kind of 'normal people' or even angelic.

However, this is pretty accurate in how people see all this; even I have been guilty of this a long time ago, when I didn't know better.

This information and especially the visuals of what goes on behind the scenes is kept hidden and a deep secret, because if people KNEW just how brutal it is, if people could SEE where their muscle pieces come from and how the animals are treated, many people would quit giving these animal-murderers money (just watch 'Meet Your Meat'). In fact, there WAS a campaign that showed the brutality of slaugherhouses and animals being murdered in little TV screens in grocery stores.

People's reaction? "It's SO wrong!".."..to SHOW us all this in the stores."

Yes, people were shocked and appalled that they are SHOWN this stuff!

reply

I mean, they weren't shocked about animals being TREATED badly, they were shocked and appalled by being TOLD and SHOWN about it.

They didn't want to know, they didn't want to see or hear the animal squeals and screams, they just wanted to buy the 'stuff' from the shelves and go home to consume it.

The Woodstock-scene perfectly depicts people's ATTITUDE and IGNORANCE about this crap; they, as even I did in the past, see the painfully and brutally murdered innocent animals' muscle pieces and strands as 'FOOD MATERIAL' on a store shelf.

They look at tomatoes, eggs, 'meat' the same way. It's all equally "food stuff I can buy", and as it sits neatly packaged on a shelf, there's NO NEED to think about it any further. It's just "food I can grab from a shelf and buy", just like cookies, pineapple, bread or ketchup. It's just "STUFF" in a store, there's NO THOUGHT beyond that, so people don't even think about it any more than Woodstock did.

In THAT sense, it's brilliantly accurate. But this whole thing is so horrifying, because it's so true what happens in the world.

If there was 'human meat' in the store, I would not be ANY more shocked about it than I am about 'cow muscles and bloody pig flesh' on the same shelf. It's equally unethical, except that the cows and pigs were probably treated WAY worse and had more miserable and painful 'life' (if you can call it that) in a damp, cold dungeon with bad, malnourishing 'food' and being treated unfairly and without any value.

I am sure if 'human meat camps' ever become a thing, they're STILL treated better than any 'meat animals' ever have.

reply

But sure, blame those EVIL VEGETARIANS for brainwashing Schultz (I write it with a T, because that's how I remember it) into showing that there might be a tiny problem with how people consume things without thinking. How DARE those evil vegetarians live a healthy, ethical and environmentally sound life! What horrible people to brainwash Schultz into showing people the truth!

reply

I agree with the shocking cannibalism bit, and Snoopy being a jerk for holding out - plus, if ALL of the kids together can't get a murdered innocent animal's carcass, whose dead, bloody muscles and flesh to consume, how does a dang DOG acquire such a coveted item?

However, there are a few points I want to make about your post.

" Who the hell keeps an alive lawn chair with obvious attack tendencies in their garage?!? Someone could have been seriously injured"

That's "Who the hell keeps a living lawn chair", not "an alive lawn chair". English, do you SPEAK IT?! (just kidding, but come on, this is basic)

The other point about this is, that it's _OBVIOUSLY_ symbolic. It's not to be taken literally. Of course a lawn chair isn't and can't be alive, but there are two things to consider:

1) It EXPRESSES with this easy-to-understand "FIGHT-SYMBOLISM" how difficult and painful those things can be to handle, open and close, and how people _HAVE_ been injured trying to do these things. Lawn chairs are notoriously annoying, stressful and cumbersome, complicated and a REAL STRUGGLE to handle, operate, open, close and sometimes they close on you when you're sitting on them and so on.

It PERFECTLY symbolizes the difficult of lawn chair operations; many people DO FEEL like this scene accurately depicts - not the actual, physical event of opening a law chair in a realistic way - but the FEELING, EMOTION, EXPERIENCE and STRUGGLE, which can be described to be a REAL FIGHT to get it done.

It's not to be taken LITERALLY, it's artistic freedom as to how the 'struggle to open a lawn chair' is depicted. It could be done with interplanetary teleporters and twelve-dimensional tootbrushes that look nothing like anything people have ever seen, and it would still be just as descriptive and realistic, because it's supposed to be a figurative, symbolic, imaginary scene, exaggerating the struggle to underline it.

reply

2) Snoopy is shown to have a magnificent, powerful, effective IMAGINATION.

He is OFTEN shown to exaggerate the experiences he has in all sort of manners. He, for example, is shown to fight a 'Red Baron' with his doghouse as an airplane, and there are extended scenes in other Peanuts specials and movies depicting these fights, as if they are literal - bullets fly, airplanes roar, there are crashes, explosions and whatnot.

In the end, however, you find Snoopy just walking along next to his ordinary doghouse.

Are you saying Snoopy's doghouse ACTUALLY flies and he ACTUALLY was shooting at a 'Red Baron', and also getting shot, and could've died from that?

Probably not, right? It was JUST AN IMAGINED SCENE to exaggerate and also wonderfully show to us that Snoopy just has an over-active imagination, and in his imagined scenes, 'anything can happen' that wouldn't really, normally happen.

As a sidenote, I wish Woodstock was flying more in this one, he seems to be walking and running around a lot, whereas in the comic, he flies in very odd and random-looking patterns, like a butterfly. That is way funnier than making him just walk on the ground.

reply

Lawn chairs in the 1970's weren't a problem - sometimes if you had the ones with the adjustable back, that might take some wiggling... but those chairs were for the caviar class...

Now the collapsible camp/beach chairs they've been selling for the last 20 years, THOSE can be a total pain in the ass... OTOH I've found some abandoned ones, likely due to the owner getting frustrated trying to collapse them...

reply