REALLY Racist Movie - Brian's Song (1971) Discussion

[–] mactach 12 years ago

Shut up!

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Shut up!

ditto

Man is the warmest place to hide.

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Oh please. Depending on the context, most guys will share rude, sexist and racist statements as a show of male comraderie. I know that throughout high school and college, my best friend would throw racist remarks at each other in good clean fun.

He would call me "wetback" and I would call him a "mick". At no time did either one of us feel anger because we knew it was meant in fun. If two people are comfortable with each, than stereotypical racist tags are not taken at face value. Piccolo and Sayers were comfortable with each other and the use of those terms was meant in fun.

BTW....despite my best friend and I calling each other "wetback" and "mick"....I ended up being his best man at his wedding.

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[–] Bob Pr. 7 years ago

johnfuen, I agree with you 100%. I do NOT think this movie was racist -- quite the contrary -- and I think it showed inter-racial closeness and harmony in a very racist time.

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[–] esskayess 11 years ago

Spoken by the Thought Police. Piccolo was no racist and you can ask Sayers himself and get the same answer. Get lost.

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[–] Kingsbridger 11 years ago

agreed. all this dialogue was typical jock talk. Bring'n out the shhheeet to deal with it. NBD.

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[–] ridgerunner72160-609-362419 11 years ago

He was joking around. Go preach to somebody else.

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[–] Sparky48 11 years ago

I know. Cut out the race card.

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[–] cormac_zoso 11 years ago

first off, Piccolo, both in the movie and in real life, used stereotypes of all kinds to break down walls and show how silly they are ... in real life, one Bears front office executive was assigned the task of making sure all the black players were getting on ok, no problems with white players etc, since, after all, this is 1965 ... Piccolo would always go over whenever this exec was around and start harping on him, 'what'cha doing for the dagos? what about us wops? we need looking after too' ... disarming and not racist but showing how silly all the attitudes are

and if i may add that Lenny Bruce said in many of his stand-up routines that if we just keep using these racial epithets over and over and over they will eventually just lose their potency, their ability to hurt, they'll just be words and that's all ...

this move shows that dancing around the issues, avoiding them at all costs only allows them to fester and grow stronger in the darkness ... sunlight is the best medicine

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[–] lroy77 11 years ago

You mean like the "n" word? Even Piccolo couldn't say it.

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[–] tlsnyder42-1 9 years ago

Really racist movies? Any movie that supports abortion, which kills minority babies at higher rates than white babies.

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[–] mactach 9 years ago

Shut up!

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[–] robertwnielsen 8 years ago

Ah, but Brian DID say the 'N word,' in Gale's basement when they were doing the leg lifts.

Pick: *beep* CHICKEN *beep*

Gale: Oh, Pick! Don't make me laugh! Please!

Brian (after Gale teases Brian about 'trying' to call him a *beep* Lay off, man! What was I SUPPOSED to do? Call you a WOP?

Gale: Now, that'd make me MAD!

PS--In case anybody doesn't know, 'wop' is considered a racial slur against Italians, much like the 'n word' is against blacks.

<i>"Has anybody ever told you you have a SERIOUS IMPULSE CONTROL PROBLEM??[/i]"

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[–] dsillyman 9 years ago

Euromarkusx,
You must be some kind of pussy who never played sports or had a friend from a different race. Get real.

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[–] ngks 9 years ago

You are one dumbass. Grow up.

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[–] womenofbocc 8 years ago

The movie was not racist. It was loosely based on the friendship of two real life people. I am sure that the writers. directors and producers took some liberties with the movie, but the fact that Piccolo used what we "politically correct" people nowadays would consider a racial slur shows the era in which they lived. Remember the part where the coach said something about Piccolo being the first player to have to share a room with a black player? We are talking early 60's, and the racial slurs at that time were par for the course.

In 2015, if a black man calls another black man the N word, everyone is up in arms about it. I say what's the big deal? You only need to be sensitive about stuff like that if you do not know who you are. If you do know who you are, then you don't let something that small get you all worked up.

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[–] emncaity 8 years ago

I get your point, and to some extent it _is_ a reflection of the era, but the truth is you'd hear a lot more of this sort of thing now than people realize. You're expected not to be a sensitive flower at an NFL training camp (or at NBA preseason training, and for the most part in MLB spring training). It becomes an issue when something leaks to the public, and then everybody has to do the required bowing and scraping for PR purposes. But for the kind of people bothered by the kind of talk in this film, it's probably a good idea to stay away from environments like that. Or better yet, they might want to just go find a place to toughen up, for God's sake.

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[–] emncaity 8 years ago

Over your hypersensitivity yet?

I'd suggest avoiding any environments like an NFL camp or NBA preseason training.