Realistic?


To all the men out there who have dealt with similar situations, is this a realistic film? First, would a man who is committed to his marriage spend so much time with a troubled young girl with whom he apparently has nothing in common? If he does spend this time, is it not clear that he envisions the possibility of having an affair? If so, why not have it? It’s true, he almost did and backed off at the last minute because of the turtle neck scene which reminded him of his children, but I guess what I am asking is why did it take him a year to get there? Aren’t men supposed to be impulsive creatures that get what they want as soon as possible? Is his dilemma resolved for good? Does this mean that he will not be checking out women anymore? Has this experience brought him to permanent monogamy bliss? My last question is: do we have enough going on here to make a movie out of it or is it just a unidimensional essey in the form of a movie?

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I most definitely feel that Chloe in the Afternoon is completely realistic in it's portrayal of an intelligent man's flirting with infidelity. Intelligent man being the key factor. Not all men are ridiculously impulsive. Frederic knows what is both morally and literally at stake in his dealings with Chloe. If he spends a year's time involved with Chloe in a flirtatious but platonc relationship, it is because Chloe's presence in his life reminds him of something missing from within himself. Please note, missing within himself, not actually missing from his life.

Also, troubled as she may be, Chloe is not actually a young girl (at least no younger than Frederic) and was an acquaintance from college. Again, because of this fact, Frederic is able to see something in her another man might not. Frederic and Chloe talk of it quite candidly as they admire their reflection in a mirror. "Wouldn't it be nice to be able to live two lives simultaneously." Chloe is a reflection of the imaginary second life to Frederic is so smitten with at the beginning of the film.

In the end Frederic abandons Chloe not because the sweater reminds him of his children, but it reminds him of who he actually is and not the reflection of possibility that he saw in his relationship with Chloe.

If I feel that there is one flaw in this film, it is in his return to his wife. By returning home to her and her subsequent monologue, we are left to intuit (as you so understandably did) that Frederic is now dedicated to his marriage and all of the choppy waters are behind them. I would have preferred if the film ended with Frederic leaving Chloe's apartment. As it is, the entire movie is Frederic's until the end scene, then it is his wife's. As far as permanent monogamy is concerned, I don't think Frederic's life beyond the credits is important. Ours as an audience is only to follow the arc of the characters from fade in to fade out. After that, their story is entirely up to you. Until the sequel (God forbid).

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This is a wonderful examination & explication of the film!

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To me this film like all the other films are expressions of Eric Rohmer's hopeless bourgeoisie mentality. He never lets the character get laid outside of marriage. He is a reactionary in the French cinema trying to restore "morality" as he sees it.

To answer your question, no this is not normal in the French Parisian society where many men have mistresses, Rohmer was going against the grain in the world of French Cinema and the real life of Paris.





















































































































































































































































































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There are a lot of spoilers in what I'm about to say:

The way I'm thinking about this movie is with a little more attention to Chloe. She doesn't believe in marriage, but rather, she believes in spontaneity, in being true to the moment. Frederic, on the other hand, is too scared, probably of old age and death and so he clings to the goofy little boy life/the safe abode of the family construct so that he can always have a sense of having achieved something. He has to have things, he has to own things in order to appreciate them. Whereas Chloe can never be owned, because she is too free and generous, too busy living and moving through life, spreading her love and talents around, honestly. She also makes some predictions for Frederic's future, that I believe will happen. For example, she says that eventually Frederic will cheat on his wife even if it's not with her, that some future girl will reap the benefit of all the work she's done. And, what a great deal she does! She is completely honest with him, while he only spews lies to her, telling her that he loves her, that they make a cute couple. Also, he says that he wishes he could be married to her as if he were living two perfect lives. The problem is that he never behaves as if he believes what he says. For example, every time they're about to have intercourse, he starts yapping to Chloe about his wife, which to me means that he is giving preference to one "wife" rather than living two "perfect lives simultaneously" as he said he wanted. He is shown to be an empty-talker, whereas Chloe is the honest do-er. In the end, Frederic leaves Chloe just after she has shared with him her most vulnerable, naked state, to go back to his wife with whom he still can't be honest, and who isn't honest with him either. The movie ends as Frederic and his wife have intercourse, not wildly, but very calmly and cleanly, dispassionately. To me, this shows that Chloe's prediction has a good chance of coming true, since their life together seems to be rapidly deteriorating, regardless of the fact that they remain together at the end.

In short, I think Rohmer has given us a subtly anti-bourgeois movie, almost subversively so.



P.S. It would be nice, Blaine3-2, if you would delete some of the blank space in your answer, since I almost skipped over the following comments, as I thought there weren't any after yours.







*This is a place to write anything I think is important or smart or cute. It ends all my comments.*

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Okay this thread is 4 years old... you've probably lost interest (hell i would), but i'm gonna take a stab at this anyway... uhm, so i think that the movie's best quality is it unique storytelling abilities. most generic films always end up with the guy cheating, either because its a cookie cutter film so its playing to the cliche that guys fck anything that walks, or if its an interesting film, it still has the guy cheat because "it wants to project realism" because everyone believes guys are jerks who have sex with strange women no matter how much they love their wives. but thats where this film stands out. the guy didnt cheat. no matter how many advances the girl made, no matter how much he was attracted to her, he didn't fck her. so is it realistic? i dont know, does it matter, if the movie was great either way?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFtYpLV4EPo

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" My last question is: do we have enough going on here to make a movie out of it or is it just a unidimensional essey in the form of a movie? "

My only question,even 9 years later,is: Are you kidding?

It is true.

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