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.......or are some of them overdubbed by others ???




SAVE FERRIS

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William Daniels, Howard Da Silva and Ken Howard were DEFINITELY singing: They came straight from the Broadway Cast. John Cullum was also a trained singer, so he might also have been singing too.

a bit OT, but relevant: Many years later, when William Daniels was starring in the TV show ST. ELSEWHERE, his character attends a Medical Convention. It is in the middle of a humid, miserable East Coast summer, and be lifts an eyebrow, singing a single line from 1776!

"It's Hotter than H*LL, In PHILADELPHIA!!!"

I was hooked from the first word, and the first note. (g)








"I do hope he won't upset Henry.."

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> singing a single line from 1776!

He's with with his wife - both show wife and real-life wife - in Philadelphia when he sings the line. Then he turned to her and said something to the effect, "Now you can't say I never sang for you."

Daniels also played John Adams in a mini-series about the Revolution that came out in the 1970s - I don't recall the title. No singing though.

-Wm

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And he also Played John Quincy Adams in the Adams Chronicles.

In the kingdom of the blind, you're the village idiot.

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Actually, Mr. Daniels played John Adams in "The Adams Chronicles", and J.Quincy was played by David Birney

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I beg to differ with you...

George Grizzard played John Adams in The Adams Chronicles.

David Birney played the young John Quincey Adams, and William Daniels played John Q Adams when he was older.


How sad, that you were not born in my time, nor I, in yours.

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Thanks, I misremembered. Maybe it's time for a rerun of that series!

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Daniels also played John Adams in a mini-series about the Revolution that came out in the 1970s - I don't recall the title. No singing though.


He played Cousin Sam Adams in "The Bastard" the first volume of the "Kent Family Chronicles" series and in its sequel "The Rebels" he returned to the part of John Adams, right down to the exact same costume he'd worn in "1776"!

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John Cullum was doing his own singing. He's a broadway veteran, was in the broadway production of 1776, and won a Tony for best actor in a musical for Shenandoah.

Others in the movie who were in the broadway cast are listed on the IMDb trivia:

The original Broadway production of the musical "1776" opened at the 46th Street Theater on March 16, 1969 and ran for 1217 performances. William Daniels (portraying John Adams (MA)), Howard Da Silva (portraying Dr. Benjamin Franklin (PA)), Ken Howard (portraying Thomas Jefferson (VA)), Roy Poole (portraying Stephen Hopkins (RI)), Virginia Vestoff (portraying Abigail Adams), David Ford (portraying Congressional President John Hancock (MA)), Ron Holgate (portraying Richard Henry Lee (VA)), William Duell (portraying Andrew McNair, Congressional Custodian),Ralston Hill (portraying Congressional Secretary Charles Thomson), Jonathan Moore (portraying Dr. Lyman Hall (GA)) and Charles Rule (portraying Joseph Hewes (NC)) all recreated their roles in the movie.


As you can see, the movie didn't need performers to be dubbed.

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What's interesting is if you get the "1776" CD the recordings are from the Era of the Broadway show.

-either William Daniels' voice improved during his time as John Adams or he wasn't feeling well the day they recorded the cast album.

His singing in the movie is much stronger.

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You can check here on IMDB under the Soundtrack listings for the names of those singing. Usually if someone is dubbed that person's name is listed and the name of the person he or she sings for. In a film like this you can clearly hear in the majority of the singing voices that's it's the same as the person talking. Meaning William Daniels sounds the same when he sings as when he talks. As does Blythe Danner etc. Many of the older supporting players noted as cast may not be well known by face or name but they're established Broadway & film musical performers who also did their own singing.

link:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068156/soundtrack

Sit Down, John
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by William Daniels and the Cast


Piddle, Twiddle and Resolve
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by William Daniels


Till Then
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by William Daniels and Virginia Vestoff


The Lees of Old Virginia
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by Ron Holgate, Howard Da Silva, and William Daniels


But, Mr. Adams
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by William Daniels, Howard Da Silva , Rex Robbins, John Myhers , and Ken Howard


Yours, Yours, Yours
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by William Daniels and Virginia Vestoff


He Plays the Violin
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by Blythe Danner, Howard Da Silva, and William Daniels


Cool, Cool, Considerate Men
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by Donald Madden , John Cullum , David Ford , and the Cast


Momma Look Sharp
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by Stephen Nathan, William Duell , and Mark Montgomery


The Egg
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by Howard Da Silva, William Daniels, and Ken Howard


Molasses to Rum
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by John Cullum


Is Anybody There?
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by William Daniels


Finale
Music and Lyrics by Sherman Edwards
Performed by Ralston Hill and the Cast


"MOJO2014"

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John Myhers can sing. Long ago we saw him as Captain Von Trapp in the Chicago production of The Sound of Music.

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John Myhers was also the voice in all the "Hector Heathcote" cartoons, some of which had Revolutionary War settings!

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Wow, thank you both very much for all the great info!

Yes, I too could tell some were DEFINITELY singing themselves, but a few I wasn't sure of (Blythe Danner comes to mind).

Again, thanks.



SAVE FERRIS

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I think part of the reason I love this movie is nobody was dubbed... you can't say that about a lot of famous musicals.

My Fair Lady... The Sound of Music, South Pacific, West Side Story... The King and I... all of them had voice dubbing.

John Cullum's voice was still wonderful when he guest starred on Quantum Leap as a drunk actor starring in a road tour of Man of LaMancha, and on Northern Exposure.

There are videos of him singing of youtube also.






How sad, that you were not born in my time, nor I, in yours.

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Ghostfan, your signature quote sounds familiar. What is it from?

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I am so sorry... just saw your message.


The quote is from the TV version of The Ghost and Mrs. Muir... the last line in the pilot episode.

Incidentally, William Daniels guested on gamm back in 1968.

Fun, because Mulhare and Daniels both ended up on Knight Rider many years later.




How sad, that you were not born in my time, nor I, in yours.

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No worries! It's been forever since I've seen that! Thanks for letting me know.

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According to Peter Hunt, everyone did his/her own singing, even those not imported from the Broadway production. Watch "But, Mr. Adams"- Rex Robbins (Roger Sherman) was Herbie opposite Angela Lansbury's Rose in GYPSY, and John Myhers (Robert Livingston) had been a Broadway/tour Captain Von Trapp in THE SOUND OF MUSIC. You can also see Myhers singing "A Secretary Is Not A Toy" in the film version of HOW TO SUCCEED.

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That episode of Quantum Leap is one of my all-time favorites! He was absolutely wonderful in that episode.

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