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needs better rating....look at # of spinoffs


Not that this should be a deciding factor on ratings but dam, even its spinoff gets higher ratings on imdb. I was just looking at the cast list and didn' t realize Conrad Banes was on this show, too. I know that Good Times and All in the Family are spinoffs. I don' t think that Different Strokes is but Maude did not hurt Conrad' s career either.

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Maude was a spinoff (or rather, crossover) of All in the Family, not the other way around.

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Different Strokes was not a spin off of Maude, but did spin off The Facts of Life.

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Are you kidding?! Before you express any further ignorance, I'll inform you that both Maude and The Jeffersons originated as spinoffs of All In The Family.

I will agree with you that Conrad's career was helped by Maude.

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First you have All in the Family, which started in 1971, then the spin-off Maude in 1972, then you have a spin-off of a spin-off, which was Good Times in 1974 & last you have The Jeffersons which started in 1975.

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Don't forget "Archie Bunker's Place", "Gloria" and "704 Hauser", all of which were spin-offs of "All in the Family". Although the only "character" in "704 Hauser" from the original show was the house.

But to the OP. "Good Times" was the only "Maude" spin-off. "Maude" was remade in France as "Maguy" in 1985.

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And a spin-off of the Jeffersons was (the short lived) Checking In (1981)

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Thanks Rycki, for the info of France's 80s version of Maude! Does anyone recall a shortlived UK sitcom, starring Elaine Stritch and Donald Sinden called 'Two's Company' which emerged in the mid-70's? Not to be mistaken for the US remake of 'Man About the House', 'Three's Company'! Leslie Halliwell: (the odiously conservative film writer) mentioned the sitcom in his book of tv comedy, likening it to Maude, in Stritch's similar performance. (Incidentally, Elaine Stritch's one-woman show appeared in London at the same time as Bea's, 4 years ago!) It seems Maude was also released here in the UK briefly by ITV in 1976, (I was 2 at the time!), but audiences didn't take kindly to Bea Arthur's witty, acerbic performance. Which doesn't say much about UK viewing tastes back then: the biggest sitcom hits had ludicrously lecherous male leads as I recall, whereas women were two dimensional, and generally made the butt of the gags, being either 'birds' or harridans! Thank goodness for Maude, I say! And onwards and upwards with plans to release further seasons on dvd!

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"Which doesn't say much about UK viewing tastes back then: the biggest sitcom hits had ludicrously lecherous male leads as I recall, whereas women were two dimensional, and generally made the butt of the gags, being either 'birds' or harridans!"

AMEN to that. Take a look at "Are You Being Served?" or "Benny Hill"; for a country that thought itself more civilised than "the colonies", they sure had a lot of lecherous pompous arses on telly.

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DIFFERENT STROKES was not a spinoff of MAUDE, but Bain's work on this show did lead to him getting cast as Mr. Drummond. GOLDEN GIRL'S Rue McClanahan played Bain's wife and Maude's best friend Vivian, on this show.

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There were only two "Maude" spin offs, "Good Times" and "Mr. Dugan". "Good Times" was on CBS for six seasons. "Mr. Dugan" was pulled at the last minute and never shown.

"Good Times" main character Florida Evans was employed as Maude Findlay's housekeeper in Tuckahoe, NY. When producers decided to feature Florida in her own show they applied retroactive changes to her history. Florida's husband's name was changed from Henry to James, there is no mention of Maude and they lived in Chicago.

In 1978 producer Norman Lear felt the show "Maude" was getting stale and decided to move the setting to Washington, D.C. and make Maude a Congresswoman. After two episodes Bea Arthur decided not to continue and the show left the air. Lear still believed in the concept and filmed a new pilot tilted "Onward and Upward" with essentially the same script and cast except with John Amos replacing Arthur. Creative differences between Amos and the producers led to Amos bowing out. The show was renamed "Mr. Dooley" and finally "Mr. Dugan". The late Cleavon Little was hired as the title character. "Mr. Dugan" had been scheduled for its premiere and heavily promoted by CBS. A special screening for Black Congressmen was a disaster. Many found the show "demeaning" and threatened a boycott of CBS if the program aired. Lear canceled the series then reworked it as "Hanging In", which was canceled after four episodes.


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