MeTV episodes - Season 3
The TV Guide app says Season 3. The episode description made me check - It sounded like a new season from the description.
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The TV Guide app says Season 3. The episode description made me check - It sounded like a new season from the description.
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I'm typing on a tablet. If I don't make sense, I probably got screwed by Autocorrect. Again.
btw, noticed a band-less cap. and a blue... jumper? It a student nurse. :-) I'm pretty sure I've read too many Student Nurse books. But if you haven't, this article will explain - somewhere below the pictures in the middle
I'd make a live link but the URL tags keep landing after the signature and I'm too lazy to jump thru hoops.
http://www.lifebridgeblogs.org/2012/05/08/the-history-of-the-nurses-cap/
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Yep, season 3 already!! I too saw the student nurse w/ blank cap. But there was also a nurse-nurse (wearing white) who had one too. I'll check out the link a little later, right now it's time to fix dinner.
BTW, somewhere here in season 3 we see Johnny's hair go from side part to middle part. I also think that s3 is his best "hair" season--not too long, not too short.
O Keeper of The Book... I wonder when this episode (Frequency) was filmed? It seems odd that Big Red (the new engine) is introduced in episode TWO rather than episode one of the new season, so that made me curious about filming dates.
Okay, dinner calls. Now that all my "regular" TV shows have ended for the season, my evenings are a little less crowded, and I'll get to my episode recap then.
Whew! Can't believe season 2 went by so fast!
On Monday our daughter and son-in-law drove in from Wyoming for a visit, and just left for home this morning. I've still watched every day, but have not had much time to come comment. Excited for season 3, cause I love this one!
BTW, somewhere here in season 3 we see Johnny's hair go from side part to middle part. I also think that s3 is his best "hair" season--not too long, not too short
O Keeper of The Book... I wonder when this episode (Frequency) was filmed? It seems odd that Big Red (the new engine) is introduced in episode TWO rather than episode one of the new season, so that made me curious about filming dates.
Interesting read on the history of the nurse's cap. I knew some of it, but not all. And I wish that slideshow came with captions to explain some of the caps. A few of them looked a little like, shall we say, sanitary products??
I used to love those caps, and when I worked summers at my local hospital, I had to stop myself from, um, 'borrowing' one that I saw had been left in a breakroom or locker room or something. No, of course I wouldn't have kept it, but I'd have loved to try it on.
Another good "issues" episode, in which our guys (Randy especially) get to actually, you know, act. With emotion and everything. I think this subject was only touched on in one other episode, one of those brushfire eps in which a fellow firefighter is seriously injured while fighting the fire. That ep is Roy's turn to shine.
Back to Frequency. It's also another "pretty Johnny" episode. I swear, that close-up of him when he's talking to Drew's wife... he looked like he was made out of porcelain.
The opening scene was cute, how they were working on the squad and Boot stole one of their screwdrivers. Then they get a call, and leave the station with the toolchest in the middle of the bay. Bet the engine guys loved that when they got back.
While en route to that call (involving Drew), we hear one of the other squads responding over the radio ("Squad 59, 10-4"). We usually never hear any of the other engines' or squads' responses to LA, but since it was important to the theme of the episode, we hear it today. (We also heard Cap Stanley in that first scene say "engine 51 out 20 minutes" or something.)
At the scene... I thought Drew looked like one of the Walton boys. I know he wasn't, but he looked like he was. And after Brackett gave the OK for an IV, what did Johnny think was going to change in the 20 seconds they couldn't talk to Rampart? I know it was an emotional thing, and if he didn't know the victim he probably wouldn't have been so freaked out about the lag-time, but still.
Once they got Drew to Rampart, Morton danced w/ the IV pole. Actually, I think it slapped him,lol. Brackett mentioned that OR would be on standby and he'd have to operate, but that OR looked like it was in the same hallway as the ED. And since when does a surgeon wear a stethoscope while performing an operation??
I hate to say this, but... I think it's so funny to watch Dr. Early 'rush' down the corridor. He reminds me of those race-walkers who walk kind of funny. And the boy who was drunk... I have to say, I thought that kid actor did a good job. I always wonder how they get younger actors (under 10) to do some of the things they do, and do it so well.
When we see the engine leave the station on that final call at the construction site, we see Cap hustle into the engine as usual, and the squad & engine roll out. But is that really Cap Stanley in the roll-out footage? Sort of looks like the guy in the shotgun seat has a mustache. It could be Stanley, and maybe I'm seeing a shadow, but I wasn't sure.
Anyway, on to the thing that kind of bothers me about this episode. On one hand, John says that Drew was a "really close friend," but on the other hand, the wife says "we haven't seen you in months." Well, I guess that sort of thing happens when friends can't see each other as much as they'd like. Then, after Johnny took the phone call from Pam & was telling Roy about it, I thought Roy was going to say something like "don't get too involved in her life right now," or words to that effect. It was possible for Johnny to go overboard with spending time with her, and that would not have been good for either of them, for a variety of reasons, so it would have been wise for Roy to say something like that. Also, it bothered me when Johnny said "I tried so hard to get his death out of my mind, and then she calls." Well, isn't that nice for you, that you could put Drew's death out of your head after a couple of days. Pam doesn't have that luxury, she has to live with it-- every minute of every day. Unfortunately, it's something we all do. when we go to the funeral of an acquaintance, or a co-worker's family member, we all feel badly for them, and sympathize... and then leave there and go on with our lives. It's human nature. But the family members don't have that luxury to shrug and go on to something else. It would have been nice to hear Johnny acknowledge that it's easy for him to get back to his 'normal' life after the funeral, when it's totally impossible for her. Ah well, it's only a TV show, it can't be expected to do everything. As it was, I think it was a good ep that brought up some good points for the general public to think about regarding police officers and firefighters.
Okay, rant over.
I thought it was interesting for Johnny to wonder what his wife (and kid?) would do without him. Then I wondered if Police Officers got really good life insurance. I hope so.
I'll have to look for those regular nurses. in Cherry Ames, they wore different colors different years... but I don't remember the details. (and seeing this won't remind me) Nowadays everyone wears scrubs an you can't tell a nurse from anything else. Do orderlies still exist? What do they do?
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Well, I won't write a lot about this eppy, because you ladies have covered most of what I wanted to say myself, since I'm a day late. Most of what I will say is in response to these quotes by Slackersmom:
Another good "issues" episode, in which our guys (Randy especially) get to actually, you know, act. With emotion and everything. I think this subject was only touched on in one other episode, one of those brushfire eps in which a fellow firefighter is seriously injured while fighting the fire. That ep is Roy's turn to shine.
Back to Frequency. It's also another "pretty Johnny" episode. I swear, that close-up of him when he's talking to Drew's wife... he looked like he was made out of porcelain.
I hate to say this, but... I think it's so funny to watch Dr. Early 'rush' down the corridor. He reminds me of those race-walkers who walk kind of funny.He does not move as elegantly as Brackett, it's true.
And the boy who was drunk... I have to say, I thought that kid actor did a good job. I always wonder how they get younger actors (under 10) to do some of the things they do, and do it so well.I was impressed too and also wondered what kind of direction he got. Now I want to go re-watch Witch Mountain.
it bothered me when Johnny said "I tried so hard to get his death out of my mind, and then she calls." Well, isn't that nice for you, that you could put Drew's death out of your head after a couple of days.I don't think that's what he meant. I read that as his being able to not feel that awful ache for a little bit, and then talking to her brought it all up again full force. I think he was speaking about how he was trying to cope with his grief and struggling.
One of my favorite episodes, The Old Engine. Not only the debut of the Ward LaFrance, but I like any episode where we see how much Johnny and Roy love and honor their jobs and the importance of Fire Department work, past and present. The end of the episode when they discuss how valuable that old engine was back in its day is some of the best writing of the series.
shareI agree with you charcas67, on all of your points!!
For me, it was two really excellent eppys right in a row, with Johnny and Roy being the epitome of the paramedic/firefighters that I grew up loving to watch.
Some additional things of note to me was the way they changed up the filming style. I love the way they included the overhead shots of the Squad and new Engine going down the road, and I was really impressed with the last rescue! Lots of apparatus responding, and it really shows just how well these firemen work together to do their jobs. This was a great way to start off the season!!
Other things I noticed were the new ambulance guys, don't recall seeing them before, and both orderlies at Rampart were young and fit. Seems like we see a lot of older orderlies and ambulance guys, and I don't mean the stunt actors that they utilize a lot, we know they are healthy and fit, but a lot of the random guys look like it might be a struggle for them to being lifting and carrying patients around, lol.
I also liked the way they handled the rescue with the girl on acid. Johnny got quite a workout on this one, running down the street, and then having to climb all of those stairs, ha! The way he came up behind her on the roof was reminiscent of 'The Professor', when Johnny had to come in behind him to get the fireplace poker out of his hand. They both have repeatedly shown such a soothing and calm manner when dealing with their patients.
Dixie is always on the early receiving end of the info grapevine
I'd love to know how she always gets the lowdown before the guys show up
The Ward LaFrance is a beautiful rig!!
Why is Johnny asking about "A Shift" not being back yet?? He IS on "A-Shift"!!
By the way, it is ROY who is running up the stairs after the girl who is on acid; Johnny is in the elevator!!
Yes, the Ward is gorgeous!!
The "A Shift" discrepancy is mentioned in the Behind the Scene book.
Apparently they were working the "B Shift" in both 'Frequency' and 'The Old Engine'. No explanation as to why the shift change, but it happened for the whole crew obviously, lol.
I see now it was Roy on the stairs, but I addressed that in another post.
Glad to find out it wasn't Johnny, but no happier than he was at the time, haha.
I agree that it was nice to hear them appreciate the dedication and service of the old engine (and the firemen who rode on her... altho that sounds dirty!). But we saw that junkyard (and that engine, as well as others) in another rescue.
It was nice seeing "Big Red" for the first time. And funny when John & Roy were riding on the tailboards--when we see their faces, they're standing close together. But when the shot is from far away (behind them), the two people on the back of the engine are standing farther apart.
I also liked the way they handled the rescue with the girl on acid. Johnny got quite a workout on this one, running down the street, and then having to climb all of those stairs, ha!
Was it Roy on the stairs? I was only watching with half an eye as I had to take a phone call, and couldn't reach the the pause button in time. Johnny was probably grateful to ride the elevator, lol. I did notice that it took him a little longer to enter the roof.
During the time they were trying to splint the man's leg during the fire, they were being drenched with water the whole time. I said to the hubby that I felt bad for the guys having to work in the spray, as you couldn't see any flames at the time. After the guy was hoisted out of the roof, and they turned around, then you could see a small area of flames behind them
Oh yes, I'm definitely watching Johnny's hair
The bridge in the background during the fire rescue looked familiar, but there are no filming locations listed for this eppy. There did used to be a Peck & Hills Furniture in downtown apparently, but the area is so changed it's hard to be sure. It might be the 6th Street bridge based on the current location.
I'm catching up after getting behind.
New engine, new bay station equipment and reddish hair for Roy!
I have read firefighter forums where they talk about riding on the rear step of the engine, now prohibited in most places because it’s dangerous. Sounds like it was fun but could be miserable and/or terrifying depending on the weather, the road conditions and the distances. Johnny got to ride rear step with Roy and the running board on the squad. Fun day for him!
That 1932 rig seems ancient now, but it was 41 years old when the episode aired. The new engine in the same episode is now about the same age.
Druggie girl -- the generic “groovy” ‘60s music was not only awful, it’s the last thing college students would be tripping to in 1973. I’d have been more pissed off at the roommate than the OD girl. That was a gorgeous building where they caught her -- the shot of the stairs and the glass elevator was striking. And it was by the Funky Flipper Arcade and Orange Julius, which I wish I could visit.
Good god, Kevin looked gorgeous in this episode. Everything about him. Hot damn.
I love how slackersmom gets excited over men "wearing lots of clothes" ;-)
Don't stop - it's fun! :-)
I missed one ep - looked at clock, it was 7pm and parts of 2 trying to get my bunny back in the house before it rained.
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This ep isn't too remarkable in most respects, but there are a few things of note. (One thing being, it features a cat having kittens, and as you can see from my avatar, I love cats. And the whole internet agrees with me that kittens are too, too cute.)
- The airplane crash. It was good to see Roy & John being sensitive and considerate to the girl, and it's one of the handful of times they come upon a victim who's already gone by the time they get there. (Our of curiosity, what do they do in that case? Have the sheriff's deputy call the coroner?) But the girl, Angie, bothered me. When she told Dixie the story of waking her dad and her dad making noises like a roaring lion or elephant... then she gave a roar like he did. She just sounded like she was acting way too young for her age. Then she said "I'm not gonna see my daddy again, am i?" She was supposed to be about 8 or 9... kids that age have a grasp of the concept of death, don't they? And then later she asked her mother about that "funny hat" she was wearing. WTF?? She was acting more like she was 6 rather than 9. At least, I thought so.
- The boat rescue. I thought it was funny that the squad parked in the middle of the boat access ramp. I bet any boaters who arrived while they were out on the water didn't appreciate that, they wouldn't be able to get their boats out of the water, or newcomers couldn't get their boats into the water, lol. * During the rescue itself, I noticed a glare or something in the scenes of Roy working on the victim, with the Harbor Patrol boat in the background. The glare was on the bottom right of the screen. * Johnny wasn't using his green pen. * When the Harbor Patrol boat took the victim away, they left 2 firefighters on the pleasure boat. This is a great example of the kind of rescue I like, because it's complicated and awkward and it obviously wasn't (couldn't be) rehearsed to death because there were a lot of variables and moving parts. It's also a good example of Johnny "directing traffic" while getting the patient extricated and onto the HP boat. We hear Roy a little, but Johnny talks non-stop in cases like this.
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My impression is that Johnny meant it's "his" bed while he's on shift, and of course someone else sleeps there during other shifts. Since the cat appeared in the morning (I think) it was "his" bed for the next 22 or 23 hours.
(Personally, I never heard of a mother cat relocating her kittens when they're less than a day old--not unless there's imminent danger or some other urgent reason to do so. She'd have to carry them one by one, and that would have been quite an undertaking. I worry about those kittens every time I watch this episode. )
When the Harbor Patrol boat took the victim away, they left 2 firefighters on the pleasure boat. This is a great example of the kind of rescue I like, because it's complicated and awkward and it obviously wasn't (couldn't be) rehearsed to death because there were a lot of variables and moving parts. It's also a good example of Johnny "directing traffic" while getting the patient extricated and onto the HP boat. We hear Roy a little, but Johnny talks non-stop in cases like this.
Sure, there are often some gawkers, but there are also quite often lots of helpful citizens around. The cops and other firemen on scene also seem to know what's needed and pitch in without direction. These same rescues in today's world would more likely show bystanders jockeying for position to get the best video on their phones
She just sounded like she was acting way too young for her age. Then she said "I'm not gonna see my daddy again, am i?" She was supposed to be about 8 or 9... kids that age have a grasp of the concept of death, don't they? And then later she asked her mother about that "funny hat" she was wearing. WTF?? She was acting more like she was 6 rather than 9. At least, I thought so.Maybe she was just stupid.
Darn! I missed the kittens again!? I've never seen them. The DVD was damaged.
I'm trying not to reply to everything cause we'd be here forever. It's hard.
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Hellloooooo {tap-tap-tap} Is this thing on??? I seem to have the place mostly to myself these days. I took a shower, I promise!! (It was last week, but still....)
Okay, so about An English Visitor. First, during the first alarm, did everyone see Cap step from the rec room through some small doors, directly to the little radio alcove to give his response? That was odd, I thought.
Also, it was funny during that call to the Wild West Show couple, to see Johnny waving the gun around. You'd think he'd know better than to do that. Also, I wonder why they even bothered calling in to Rampart for that? It was more of a legal/civil matter than a medical one.
Funny to hear the Brit say to Johnny (in relation to the nurse in Orthopedics), "As you Americans say, Have you made out yet?" Now, I'm pretty sure that even back in the early '70s, a question about whether someone has "made out" (in reference to a girl) would mean something very different from what he was asking. Of course, he was asking in the sense of a general "made out," like when you ask someone how they "made out" on a test at school, or at the batting cage or grocery store. It means something a leeetle bit different when referring to a member of the opposite sex.
About the pot-truck that crashed.... you'd think the, um, aroma would have been immediately identifiable to a bunch of healthy, normal guys in their 20s and 30s. I mean really, it's a pretty distinctive smell. Of course we can make all sorts of jokes about how they'd purposely drag their feet in cleaning up the accident so they could inhale as much as possible, or try to sneak a souvenir into the pocket of their turnout coat, or even the fact that one of them should've said "Suddenly I'm craving tacos" (or brownies, or something). But it was interesting that when Roy joined Johnny & Channing where they were with the victim, he seemed totally unaffected by the fumes. Maybe he was used to it, perhaps? After all, we know he'd partaken of some of that there wacky weed when he was in the "Narcotics Pit of Despair" back in the late 60s, LOLOL.
Lastly, in the final rescue, I wasn't sure exactly what happened that caused the Stokes to fall, thereby causing Johnny to lunge after it and almost become a victim himself. (Which is ironic because when Channing was allowed to go up with them, Johnny admonished him to be careful because "we don't want to have to rescue you, too." Irony, thy name is Emergency! )
Ummm TWO WORDS slackermom - Holiday Weekend!!!!
Either Roy held his breath or he really has developed a 'tolerance' to weed. Yeah, they all should have had the munchies after that run. I was half expecting Channing say something about wanting to check out a cheeseburger on his way up up to Ortho to ask out the nurse. (Can't remember if that happened at that point or not in the eppy or in a later scene).
Ummm TWO WORDS slackermom - Holiday Weekend!!!!
Roy, our wild and crazy '60s junkie! In this case, I think he's so straight that pot does nothing to him at all. A stoned Johnny would be a lot calmer. If I had to deal with him in real life, I'd be giving him pot brownies for my sanity's sake - at least on his days off.
There's an old clip from Jimmy Kimmel online about the true story of firefighters in San Diego putting out a fire where marijuana burned, and one of them was treated for smoke inhalation. The [faked] news report on Kimmel is pretty funny, and one comment said "higherfighter!" LOL
Yes, pot has a distinctive smell, as I learned at that Barry Manilow concert. [See drugs thread.]
Anyhow, I like the scene where the visitor rescues Johnny. Even when you know that our star isn't going to plunge to his death, it's still scary to watch a moment like that. Actually, I especially give a show a lot of credit for pulling me in when it is a given that things will work out.
I'm behind on episodes, but that doesn't mean I had an amazing weekend. Actually, I read a hell of a lot of E! fanfiction to hide from the world and its stresses for a bit.
Roy, our wild and crazy '60s junkie! In this case, I think he's so straight that pot does nothing to him at all. A stoned Johnny would be a lot calmer.
Even when you know that our star isn't going to plunge to his death, it's still scary to watch a moment like that.
Roy, our wild and crazy '60s junkie! In this case, I think he's so straight that pot does nothing to him at all. A stoned Johnny would be a lot calmer. If I had to deal with him in real life, I'd be giving him pot brownies for my sanity's sake - at least on his days off.
Anyhow, I like the scene where the visitor rescues Johnny. Even when you know that our star isn't going to plunge to his death, it's still scary to watch a moment like that. Actually, I especially give a show a lot of credit for pulling me in when it is a given that things will work out.
Okey dokey.....English Visitor...
Yes, I noticed those doors too, Cap even had to duck a little, and step up and over....what? They looked more like cupboard doors, and I swear I never noticed them before
That Wild West couple totally cracked me up, lol. And yeah, it was pretty funny watching Johnny carry that gun around, and I totally loved it when he said (paraphrasing) 'after looking at that flower pot, it's a good thing you did move', when the woman kept saying it was her fault for moving.
I know what I was thinking about the term 'making out', and Johnny would have had me at 'hello'
Johnny and Chet with a contact high, lolol. Although Chet was the only one who looked dazed with that little turn-around, Johnny seemed more like he had a headache. I was waiting for a joke about munchies, although I knew it wouldn't happen
I'll have to watch the scene again, but I thought the railing broke away when Johnny was leaning on it while pulling up the stokes. I wasn't sure if he made a grab for the railing to save himself, or was grabbing at the stokes instead. Guess a little bit of slo-mo is in order. There was definitely a butt shot that I pointed out to the hubby
I thought the railing broke away when Johnny was leaning on it while pulling up the stokes.
I just watched the scene again, and I think you're right, the railing did look like it came loose just a split second before he dropped the stokes. (Actually, you can kind of see Randy push his hip against the railing, to make it 'go.' Oooh, talking about Randy thrusting his hip.... is it hot in here all of a sudden?? ) Anyway, it's anyone's guess whether we were supposed to see the railing break first, or the stokes fall first and then Johnny lean on the railing and have it break. Knowing this show, that might not have been something viewers were meant to see.
Johnny was being silly getting worked up over the English guy taking out that nurse. Aside from the obvious (he hadn't taken her on a single date), this guy was there for three days. He wasn't real competition.
And yeah, Cap totally had to duck to step into the alcove. And he had to step up to get in there, too. Those were definitely cupboard or cabinet doors, not sure what was up with that deal.That was odd. Maybe a spot that equipment goes through?? No idea.
I also noticed that we never actually see "Johnny" in that scene. We only see the action from below--a firefighter with dark hair wearing a helmet, but not his face. Never once do we see a shot from over Channing's shoulder, with a view of Gage as he dangles below. So, keeping Randy's rule of thumb in mind, maybe that wasn't him at all.That arm hanging on for supposed dear life, however,is smooth and the same skin tone as Randy. It's true that we don't see his face, but that might be how they needed to place the camera to get the shot and to keep from revealing any safety gear or other equipment.
(And btw, why didn't Cap immediately order Chet to scramble up that scoop-stairway thing? It would only have taken a minute and he could have helped Channing bring Johnny up.)I wondered about that. Maybe not enough time? Or it was more fun to just watch.
Sorry that you didn't have an amazing weekend, McP, but I hope you enjoyed your fan fiction time!! Do you mind saying where you've found the really good stuff? Like no slash or off-the-wall stories, just the more true to canon fic? I'd give it a try if I was certain to not stumble over the icky stuff.Thx for the sympathy. Been wanting to post links here to the stuff that is more canon, such as missing scenes or alternate endings that go to the very questions we wonder about, like how did Johnny go from an exploding building to being bored in the hospital with a broken leg. Will take me a little time to get to it but I'll do it when I can. share
I wondered about that. Maybe not enough time? Or it was more fun to just watch.
That arm hanging on for supposed dear life, however,is smooth and the same skin tone as Randy. It's true that we don't see his face, but that might be how they needed to place the camera to get the shot and to keep from revealing any safety gear or other equipment.
Happy to make recommendations. So much out there, and I've got specific ideas of ones you might like. Just need to dig up the links. shareWould love to see your photos, but the links say 'access denied'. I guess it's the permission gremlin again......I'll be patient while you get it fixed...I thinkOk, I think I unlocked all of them now.Thanks for the eventual info on the fanfic! I'm sure I could do some searching myself, but I figured it would be quicker to find the good stuff if you've already read some. I'm always willing to take a recommendation
Hey, off topic but recently noticed - that huge thing in the Decapitation Corner - is that the portable X-ray? I either saw one used, heard one called for - telling me they existed back then - saw it put back in the corner.... and I've been watching ER (And The Night Shift. I like it. Yay!)
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First off, I know John Gage (i.e., Randy Mantooth) was goodlooking (and still is handsome), but I have to say, I do feel he wasn't exactly built like a typical stud, so while he wasn't really "soft" (he didn't have enough "meat" on him for that), he'd never be mistaken for a gym-rat, either. Just wanted to get that out of the way.
Now, on to the show....
First alarm goes off at 12:46am, and we get a gratuitous (albeit totally welcome) glimpse of the guys in their boxers as they pull on their bunker gear. Woohoo, great way to start off an episode!! Oddly enough, though, when we see them from a long-shot getting into the engine & squad, they're magically wearing their regular blue uniforms. Must be magic, LOL!
So we have the girl about to give birth under a black cloud of bad luck as she supposedly is being punished for her 'sins.' Well, boo-friggin'-hoo! Suck it up,chick, and get on with your life. And naturally they were careful to mention that she and "Rab" (nice name, dude) were married, and we even saw her wedding ring a time or two to remind us that these are 'good kids' and, more importantly, this is a family show. BTW, they were apparently all in a band in that building, so I wonder if there was some of that "peculiar smell" involved, the kind we heard about in the other episode when the English chap was visiting.
Anyway, was it just me or was there a sudden and strange heat spell around the time that Roy got to the hospital with Mrs. Doomed? Boy, did he look hot in his bunker pants and blue jacket. Johnny too, of course, but Roy coming around the corner kind of took me by surprise... not to mention kind of took my breath away. Add a little soot from the fire and man, we're talking about a whole different kind of smokin'.
Speaking of the hospital, what the heck was a 10-12 year-old kid doing fixing a TV at 1:00 in the morning?? Of course the mother was so drugged out she had no idea what was going on. But Dixie prescribed her universal cure (coffee) and all was right with the world. (Except in this case, coffee probably was the best thing for that chick.)
And more hospital drama with the young woman not wanting her baby. Not only was there a lot of Rampart in this episode, but we had to endure waaaay too much of that insipid muted 'soap opera' music during those scenes. Very annoying, not to mention overused, imho.
We got a glimpse of the boys leaving Rampart, with Johnny getting in the driver's seat. (Yay!) I was hoping for an in-squad scene next, to be sure they kept the continuity, but no such luck; next time we saw them they were walking into the rec room.
BTW, I know the engine got called to the apartment fire in the first scene, but we didn't really see much of the guys while there--no individual shots of any of them, I don't think. So basically, there was almost no engine 51 action in this episode. The squad got called out with some other engine (85) for the hang-glider, even though that engine didn't get paged at the same time as our guys. Maybe engine 85 called for the squad once they got there; that's kind of what it sounded like.
Speaking of Glider-man, he said his right leg was hurt. The way he was positioned in that tree, when Johnny asked him "Where do you hurt?" I half-expected the guy to say "Where do you think? My b*lls are being crushed to bits." It certainly was an awkward way to have the victim stuck in a tree. (LOL, I paused the scene right after he tells Johnny that his leg is hurt, and the closed-captioning on the paused scene has Johnny asking "Which one?" Man stuck with a tree branch between his legs + Johnny asking "which one is hurt" = My kind of scene. lolol)
Well, I don't have too much to add to 'Heavyweight' that you haven't already said, slackersmom, or aptly pointed out regarding the guys, lol.
Yeah, Johnny isn't really 'soft' per se, let's just call him wiry, shall we?? Actually, he's built just like my husband is, or rather, I guess I should say my hubby is built just like Johnny/Randy is, since he's just a tad older.
I liked how Johnny said 'I guess there's times being the skinny, out of condition type comes in handy'. You are so right John! He took the flak over his strained muscle, but to me it looked like the bookshelf, or whatever it was that he and Chet were moving, fell on him instead. Or he went down under it anyway, even if he stumbled over the debris first.
Anyway, was it just me or was there a sudden and strange heat spell around the time that Roy got to the hospital with Mrs. Doomed? Boy, did he look hot in his bunker pants and blue jacket. Johnny too, of course, but Roy coming around the corner kind of took me by surprise... not to mention kind of took my breath away. Add a little soot from the fire and man, we're talking about a whole different kind of smokin'.
I'm glad I'm not the only one affected by the guys at the hospital, after the fire. Woo, if I had to pick a perfect way for John & Roy to look.... the way they looked there would be it. Can I have a photo please, preferably a life-sized cardboard cut-out, just as they looked in that scene? That sure would be, um, stimulating to have.
Oh, and I forgot to mention something in my original post-- I think Roy and Johnny's hotness, not to mention my giggling at the glider-man's "private" pain (or "privates pain," as the case may be), those things distracted me so that I forgot to mention one big thing. That rescue of the shooting victim and knife victim... I love the actual medical parts of that rescue, with our fave paramedics doing their thing. But the whole kid-with-a-gun scene, and him walking past not just one, but two sheriff's deputies with a shotgun in his hand?? Sorry, but that's just too unbelievable and stupid for words. In fact, the way that whole that scene was handled, even from the beginning when they didn't know where the gunman was-- from a police/law-enforcement perspective it's just ridiculous. (Guess I've been watching too much Adam-12, where those kinds of situations are handled with a little more attention to accuracy, lol.) Anyway, it was only a TV scene, and a show that focuses more on the medical rather than the legal, so I think that's why I subconsciously just put the whole scene out of my mind and forgot about it til just now. But again, I did like how the guys each had charge of a patient, that part of the scene was good.
I misheard Brackett asking "is the patient primagravida?" as "is the patient primavera?" I have a one track mind, and that track runs to the fridge.
Roy was in fine form helping the mom at the fire scene and then taking care of Johnny afterwards. Such great interplay between those two. Soft "only from the neck up" - ha!
First off, I know John Gage (i.e., Randy Mantooth) was goodlooking (and still is handsome), but I have to say, I do feel he wasn't exactly built like a typical stud, so while he wasn't really "soft" (he didn't have enough "meat" on him for that), he'd never be mistaken for a gym-rat, either. Just wanted to get that out of the way.His not being hairy would have worked against him in the 70s too. Now it would work more in his favor. Randy was a natural for being a teen pinup with the baby face and slim build. Girls usually go for stars who are either young or young-looking, even slightly feminine in some cases. And he was thin, but look at the nice muscle definition in his back. I used to date a skinny guy who looked like a stiff breeze would knock him over, but he was active, athletic and really strong. Looks can be so deceiving.
Oddly enough, though, when we see them from a long-shot getting into the engine & squad, they're magically wearing their regular blue uniforms. Must be magic, LOL!I noticed that!
Anyway, was it just me or was there a sudden and strange heat spell around the time that Roy got to the hospital with Mrs. Doomed? Boy, did he look hot in his bunker pants and blue jacket. Johnny too, of course, but Roy coming around the corner kind of took me by surprise... not to mention kind of took my breath away. Add a little soot from the fire and man, we're talking about a whole different kind of smokin'.Not just you. No, no, not at all.
Speaking of the hospital, what the heck was a 10-12 year-old kid doing fixing a TV at 1:00 in the morning?? Of course the mother was so drugged out she had no idea what was going on. But Dixie prescribed her universal cure (coffee) and all was right with the world. (Except in this case, coffee probably was the best thing for that chick.)True! But the kid "fixing" a TV at 1am sounds about right for a boy with one parent who's drunk.
we had to endure waaaay too much of that insipid muted 'soap opera' music during those scenes. Very annoying, not to mention overusedIt was annoying and distracting!
Speaking of Glider-man, he said his right leg was hurt. The way he was positioned in that tree, when Johnny asked him "Where do you hurt?" I half-expected the guy to say "Where do you think? My b*lls are being crushed to bits."That's what I kept thinking. Leg, schmeg!
But the whole kid-with-a-gun scene, and him walking past not just one, but two sheriff's deputies with a shotgun in his hand??Not the department's best! share
Snake Bite, a good eppy for those of us who love to see our hero, John in action and peril. Back in the day we always knew our hero would be OK at the end of the day, unlike some of today's shows, where you never know when they will kill a main character off just for shock value
I always enjoy the opening rescue, it's great to see our guys, and even Chet, in civvies and still doing their job like the pros they are. And whew, that long-legged Johnny in those jeans! Roy and John looked great, but I had to chuckle over Chet in that cliched fishing vest, lol. Great overall rescue for our guys!!
Chet saying "you jerk" when the car wouldn't stop for him was also funny, I'd have probably said a lot worse, haha. The woman actually acted in pain, and pretty realistically I thought, since so many victims with broken bones seem to bear their pain in silence, lol. Johnny was so good and soothing with the woman, these guys are definitely the ones I would want attending me in any situation!! Roy didn't get to do much at first, but sit in the car with the boy, but his emotion was plain to see on his face. I also really liked Dr. Frick, his hair gives Johnny's a run for it's money, but I could do without the cute little swirls on the end of the mustache. I'd still let him treat me though
This is an eppy where both Randy and Kevin get to spread their acting wings more than usual, and that's one of the main reasons I never get tired watching it. Johnny was only a tad over the top on a couple of scenes, once while describing their vacation rescue, and the second with the nurse in his room, but he quickly went serious again once those couple of lines were over. Roy got a chance to shine with silently getting to show his concern for his partner.
And Cap, with the infamous backward mic scenes. I counted 'em, and 3, yes 3 times, he spoke into a backward mic Either nobody caught it, or the scenes were deemed too good to re-shoot, so they got left in. In any case, gotta love the Captain!! Even Johnny turned his HT around when he started to use it and saw that it was backward, and then turned it around forward. That was one of the first things I noticed today, when I don't believe I caught that before, since I've always been a little busy snickering at the Cap. Good on ya John!!
I saw that we've gotten to use Engine 85 two episodes in a row, although The Book shows they were filmed in reverse order of the way they were aired.
And as those of us who watched Randy's video interview on Emmy Legends know, the rattlesnake was real, just defanged, even though it hooked into Randy's pant leg and he couldn't get it off In a further tidbit from The Book, apparently Cinader wanted to use a rubber snake, and Ed Self went over his head to authorize use of a real snake. And Chet was supposed to be the one bit, before they changed it to Johnny. I agree, it wouldn't have had the same impact on the viewer if it were Chet, it's our hero we love!
And Johnny used the word 'damnit' although it's not like he shouted it. Seems like every time someone is allowed a tiny cuss word, it's always Johnny, lol. The two that come to mind are this one, and in the pilot where he says 'to hell with the orders'. Have to keep an ear out if there are any others
so now we know why the guys just leave the equipment behind, sometimes.
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I'm typing on a tablet. If I don't make sense, I probably got screwed by Autocorrect. Again.
Yeah, I was thinking something similar: all the times we see them leave expensive, specialized equipment to be lost forever... and Johnny has to go running down the hill for a $40 walkie-talkie.
(Disclaimer: I don't know how much they really cost, especially back then, but they certainly weren't as expensive as other stuff we've seen them leave behind.)
Yeah, this one is fan-girl Christmas for the Gage Girls. It's the middle leg of the JIJ Trifecta: Virus, Snake Bite, and The Nuisance.
So, from the beginning... I totally agree about the "nice view" of a long-legged man in jeans. Very nice!! Now, not to be cynical, but is there really a point to putting out flares in the middle of the day? I always thought of flares as being helpful at night or in poor visibility. Also, was there a reason that Chet couldn't just take Johnny's Rover to get help? Or does that fall into the "duh, too obvious, dramatic licence" category??
I do like the scene of "serious, no-nonsense Johnny" at that doctor's office. "Is there a switchboard operator?" "I operate the switchboard." "Then go operate the switchboard and get me an outside line." As we all lament here, we don't get to see Serious Johnny often enough. Both guys had their moments of impassioned speeches, all directed at the nurse. And Dr. Frick was good too. As you say, I could have done without the Rollie Fingers curlie-cue mustache, but he was the kind of character I'd have liked to have seen more of. However, I did wonder where Frick's cousin was.... you know, Frack.
As for the "primary" sequence of events.... did we all notice the Amazing Changing Dozer Driver Helmet? It has a visor! Now it doesn't have a visor! It's magic!!!
When the copter was approaching the hospital with the three victims, you could see the chopper landing pad (the big red cross), but there was no ambulance waiting there. Maybe they had to walk the rest of the way??
I've noticed other times that the guys turn the HT around to be sure they're talking in it the right way, I know I've seen Johnny do it before. Too bad Cap didn't get the memo on it.
Speaking of the HT... when Johnny got bitten, he dropped the HT, and it slid across the top of the car to the opposite side. But a second later, he has the HT again. Maybe it's like Thor and his Hammer... it always magically comes back to his hand.
I still don't understand why Roy (and maybe one of the doctors) couldn't have taken the allergy test thing and met the engine along the way, so that at least by the time they got to Rampart, they wouldn't have had to wait as long to administer the antivenin. It seems like a perfectly sensible plan to me.
Snakebite is my favorite episode of the series. Of course because Johnny is totally bad ass giving himself IV treatment on the back of the engine. Both rescues are exciting. For the first time we see a side of Chet that's not a complete ass and to me it's the beginning of making him a more likable character. Stoker got to say his most memorable line of the series "Big Deal!". The Cap on backward mic (classic goof). Excellent combination of humor, action, drama and seeing how the characters work together and care about each other.
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I always get a little laugh about how Roy is saying how the kid had heavy bleeding but it looks like the kid ate a hot dog with too much ketchup.
Johnny Girls all melt when he leans over the injured mom to calm her. And then she holds onto his lovely arm and strokes it. LOL!
Badly done Southern accents in the desert. Sure, why not?
Younger viewers would find the issue of making long distance calls baffling.
Rollie Fingers! LOL! A name I haven't heard in a while.
Good call on the lack of an ambulance at the landing pad. Why the heck is it so far from the building? Usually they land on the building, though hospital copters were new at this point, so I guess it makes sense when you consider that.
The snakebite scene is a study in what not to do if you get bit, according to today's practices. No making incisions at the bite site, no sucking out venom by mouth (sorry, Chet) and no tourniquets. The old practices sometimes led to infection or caused the venom to get absorbed more quickly.
Boy, when Randy rolls up his pant leg we can see that he wasn't spending much time in the sun in shorts. When he gets bit, am I the only one who finds the shots all disjointed, as if it was hard to edit the takes together?
From a YouTube comment: "Captain uses the back side of the microphone to help minimize voice distortion due to road and engine noise."
I like how we get a stunt driver for the trip up the hill. I wonder what they did with the older guy?
It's annoying that we don't see Roy get the news that Johnny got bit. Some of the shots on top of the truck are weird. Why they had trouble shooting around the deck gun in parts is beyond me.
Poor Roy! He looks like he wants to cry.
No making incisions at the bite site, no sucking out venom by mouth (sorry, Chet)
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It went like this.
Dixie: Roy, they're bringing in Johnny. He's been bitten by a rattlesnake.
Roy: *With tears running down his face and his lower lip quivering* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Johnny Girls all melt when he leans over the injured mom to calm her. And then she holds onto his lovely arm and strokes it. LOL!
From a YouTube comment: "Captain uses the back side of the microphone to help minimize voice distortion due to road and engine noise."
Boy, when Randy rolls up his pant leg we can see that he wasn't spending much time in the sun in shorts.
Looked like Chet was using some sort of gadget (shaped like a fat pen) to draw out the venom, is that what you meant? I mean, he wasn't actually trying to physically suck it out himself, lol. Not sure, but J&R might have used the same thing on the woman who was bitten by a snake at the gold course in the first season.
Two more episodes where Johnny uses swear words are "Transition" when Roy gets sprayed in the eyes by a Cobra and he comes in the room to help Roy and asks, "What the hell happened".
The other is "Bottom Line" when Vince pulls a gun on Johnny and had to be subdued and Johnny says, "He damned near shot me with this thing".
Yes, you're right Mawsis, how could I have forgotten these other instances! For some reason I thought the 'what the hell happened' was during one of the scenes with the wrecked ambulance with Roy inside, when Johnny drove up in the Squad asking that question.
And Bottom Line was so recent I should have remembered it.
In at least one episode, I recall Brackett saying either hell or damn. Don't recall which one, though, or if there's more than one. I guess they're the resident "hot-heads," the only ones allowed to use such "salty" language.
In at least one episode, I recall Brackett saying either hell or damn. Don't recall which one, though, or if there's more than one. I guess they're the resident "hot-heads," the only ones allowed to use such "salty" language.
At least on screen, LOL.
Seems like every time someone is allowed a tiny cuss word, it's always Johnny, lol.
I like when they get to curse since it sounds natural. And that's not going anywhere near what you'd hear in a real firehouse anyhow. That would be closer to the language Julie London used in the famous gag reel. Made me love her more than ever.
shareQ: How is a Caterpillar tractor like a time-travelling DeLorean?
A: "Where we're going, we don't need roads!"
About the backwards mic and noise cancelling...I'm not buying it. If you turn the microphone backwards, it seems that background noise is ALL you're going to hear. Your voice is what's going to be cancelled.
Build a man a fire, he's warm for a day. Light a man on fire & he's warm for the rest of his life!
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LOL, Andy!
My hubby operated heavy equipment for a living, and he said it was rather pointless that the guy in the dozer turned around to go back up the hill facing forward. He was already turned around before Johnny went back for the HT, but the hubby said a true operator would have just gone back up the hill backward, as it's easier to see over the back than the hood on the front. Of course, this was said as an operator and in no way connected to the fact that Johnny got bit by the snake, lol.
I guess visually it would have looked a bit awkward to be taking Johnny and every one else back up the hill pointing downward. It's no biggie for just the operator, but it is why the hubs has bone spurs in his neck now. You spend half your time on the job looking over your shoulder, depending on which piece of equipment it is. Coincidentally, we have a friend who operates as a fire dozer in his spare time or times of emergencies.
I don't know about the mic situation either, I agree it doesn't make much sense, you'd think it would just pick up even more of the external noise. I asked the hubby about whether it made sense, and he just sort of shrugged, lol.
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Turning the microphone around helps soften certain consonant sounds such as P's and T's so they don't sound like pops and cracks.
My hubby operated heavy equipment for a living, and he said it was rather pointless that the guy in the dozer turned around to go back up the hill facing forward. He was already turned around before Johnny went back for the HT, but the hubby said a true operator would have just gone back up the hill backward, as it's easier to see over the back than the hood on the front. Of course, this was said as an operator and in no way connected to the fact that Johnny got bit by the snake, lol.
Thanks McP!
Not much to do about the bone spurs and arthritis but deal with it, so he does.
He doesn't have a lot to contribute to our analysis of E! but when he does, he pipes up, lol. On the other hand, he's brought up plenty of things he's thought were weird until I explained why they were normal and done correctly
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- The real reason Johnny fell -- he was shocked by feeling a hand in the back of his pants.
Re suctioning the snake bite: It looked to me like Chet did oral suctioning during the tractor ride up the hill, before he was back up top with the medical equipment.
This had me roflmao!! I'm lucky I wasn't drinking something, or I'd have spit it on my screen
Agreed, that was the hokiest depiction of an accident this show has ever done. (And I give the show credit that usually all traffic accidents look much more realistic than this.) Even before they get to the pile-up, as they're leaving the station, there's some sort of bad "fog filter" over what is probably just a stock shot of the engine & squad pulling out.
At that accident scene, Roy tells the brother to "close the hood" of his car to snuff out the fire, then he discovers the other brother is dead. Then, when Marco & Chet arrive, they automatically open the hood to put out the flames with an extinguisher. Is that an automatic procedure at accidents? I've seen Chet do it once or twice in other eps (including Snake Bite), but in this case I didn't see them do it to any other vehicles as they passed. Also, there weren't any flames showing on this car before they opened it, and Roy didn't tell them to check it, either.
Again we have a child actor--in this case, a very young one--who did a very good job. She looked positively lifeless when being carried out of the vehicle, and stayed immobile as Chet did CPR (and "mouth-to-mouth" with her cheek, lol). I wonder how they got the child at that young age to be so still for so long?
Funny, though, when Roy was dealing with the mother (possible spine injury), she told him she couldn't move, and he said "stay right there." LOL, no problem, since I can't move anyway! But I love it when I hear the paramedics say "don't do anything, let us do all the work." For some reason that sounds so... efficient, and professional. And realistic, too.
Anyway, wrapped around the chain-reaction accident, and a second pool-dunking for Roy, this was another of the Big Issues episodes. And of course I liked it, I like the soul-searching and heart-felt conversations. I really like that Roy asks Brackett (and Early) their opinions, as it shows how much he respects them.
Also, I liked the final rescue, with Johnny having a hurt leg and Roy literally being blown out a window onto the ladder. Lots of opportunities to see our guys in turnout coats, air-packs, masks, helmets, etc. And them coming down the ladder.... whoo, ultimate action and coolness. I've heard from those who've trained in firefighting, that that little "flip" Roy did off the ladder is something they actually practice for when they have to go out a window head-first. (BTW, did anyone notice that at least twice after they landed, Roy put his hand on Johnny's leg? lol ) I'm sure those might have been stunt-guys on the ladder (especially as stand-in for Roy, going head-first like that) but I still love that scene!!!
Have any of you ever watched E! music videos on YouTube? Of course there are tons of them, including a lot that are specifically homages for John Gage, but I like the ones about BOTH our guys, and even the whole station 51 group. There are some good ones I can recommend if anyone wants to check them out.
I've been skipping around the board a lot because i don't have ME TV. Instead I own most seasons on DVD and happened to watch The Promotion last night. This is one of my favorite episodes. A lot of it has to do with the interaction between Roy and Johnny. I love this show and our main characters, but have to admit that there are times when I get a little tired of the writing for Johnny.
It was refreshing not to have him behave as a know it all with regard to Roy's situation (thinking of his attitude when Roy was going on the marriage gameshow with Joanne or was thinking of buying a house and many more scenarios). Nope - Johnny was supportive of Roy and didn't overstep. You could see he didn't want to lose Roy as a partner but he also genuinely wanted what was best for him and his family and stepped back and knew he needed to let Roy make the decision without any advice from him. I liked this Johnny! (Not that I don't like Johnny the rest of the time - you dig?).
We also didn't see Johnny bragging to any nurses after his leg injury about how dangerous the run was. (That comic relief tactic got a little played throughout the run of the show).
It took me three hours to figure out that FU was Felix Ungar.
I totally agree w/ you about Johnny. In The Promotion wants what's best for Roy, even though he doesn't want to lose him as a partner. Now THAT is how Johnny should have been written more often, instead of the goofy way he so often "overstepped," as you say, pushing his nose into someone else's business as he often did. (I know, I know, he always 'means well' when he oversteps, but that's beside the point and doesn't excuse it.)
And I also agree about him bragging to nurses (or flight attendants, or whatever) about the dangerous stuff he's done. As I always say, he's his own worst enemy when it comes to women, and that's a major reason. That, and his habit of "invading personal space," as someone has mentioned. (Sorry to whoever it was that originally pointed out that he does that--McP, perhaps? Bakulanews? I honestly can't remember.)
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