Like I get why the other kids were terrible brats, but Violet never struck me as that awful. So she chews gum a lot...uh big deal. Yeah she was a bit rude too but nothing on the level of the rest of them. I also loved how she told Veruca Salt to shut up at that one point (since Veruca was obviously the worst of them.) Anyone else agree she wasn't really that bad?
shareWell she was disrespectful to her Dad even though he was a pain the ass. I mean if you're going to let her off the hook you have to let Mike Teevee off too. Augustus is the one I thought was the best behaved. Yes he was scooping up chocolate from Wonka's river but Charlie stole fizzy lifting drinks.
We have to show the world that not all of us are like him: Henning von Tresckow.
And as another poster around here has pointed out what did Augustus do that was wrong? Wonka told them every thing in the room was for their eating and drinking pleasure. He didn't make an exception for the chocolate river.
Augustus and Violet weren't that bad or unlikable really. Veruca was the most obnoxious and I'd say Mike came in second place. And yes Charlie did steal the flying drink.
In a way I think Willy Wonka was more wicked than any of the children since I think he was too harsh and judgmental. And at least the children never hurt anyone whether directly or indirectly while Wonka's factory did. And it was the Oompa Loompas who shrank Mike TV simply because he told them to. Do the Oompa Loompas take orders from the children? I thought Wonka was their boss.
And why did Augustus fall in the chocolate river?
And why did Augustus fall in the chocolate river?
I think Augustus was pushed in the river by Willy Wonka
I read the original ending for the book was that Wonka killed all the children in the factory
This isn't the book though.
I think it was Grandpa Joe
I read the original ending for the book was that Wonka killed all the children in the factoryWell Roald Dahl had a notoriously bad temper so I wouldn't be one bit surprised!
Augustus was a glutton who cared only about satiating his own piggish appetite.
Violet was rude and obnoxious to everyone, including her own father. And she never listened to anyone.
Veruca of course was a horrendously spoiled petulant brat.
And Mike was a loud TV-obsessive who was hooked on violent TV shows.
Of course none of them deserved their fates, but they were all clearly repellent brats who were begging for some sort of punishment.
You missed out that thieving little brat charlie, who incidentally only managed to blag the factory!!!
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Charlie wasn't a brat.
Brats are spoiled children who get, or at least expect to get, whatever they want and aren't usually very nice about it either. Charlie howevet was a poor kid who never got anything he wanted.
Charlie wasn't a brat.
Brats are spoiled children who get, or at least expect to get, whatever they want and aren't usually very nice about it either.
Brat: a child especially an annoying, spoiled, or impolite child (usually used in contempt or irritation)
shareYup, that's Charlie.
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How was he spoiled?
shareHe was the only one Granpa Joe gave chocolate to in the house. That poor woman waited on him hand and foot and got nothing. No thanks for all the work fetching and carrying etc...
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And Charlie offered all five of them pieces of his birthday bar of chocolate and they, one and all, refused. Why? Because as his mother and grandparents they were sacrificing their gratification for Charlie's happiness, as parents and grandparents have done for a long time.
shareThat's bullshit. Granpa Joe told him to keep it secret
shareWas she considered terrible? She disqualified herself by turning into a blueberry when she was warned not to. (actually after hearing her Oompa-Loompa song, I think her issue might have been "bad manners". She interrupted people a lot, she was picking her nose, eating gum all the time is I guess maybe bad manners, she talked loudly, she grabbed the gum out of Wonka's hand. I think those are the only examples I can think of. the Oompa-Loompa song says "Given good manners you will go far.")
Augustus disqualified himself by falling into the chocolate river and getting sucked into the tube to the fudge room. Augustus is a bit more iffy since a) Wonka said they could eat anything and didn't say the river was an exception, and b) Wonka almost but not quite pushes Augustus into the river. You could say maybe it was Augustus's inability to stop drinking the river while being told not to that was the problem, leading to his falling in. He was definitely set up for it though, but then so were the others (here's some super-gum miss gum addict but don't eat it, here's some TV-magic mr TV addict but don't try it, etc.)
Here's some fizzy lifting drinks, but don't drink them.....
You forgot that one.
Well, when you consider that she was spoiled (not as bad as Veruca, but close), arrogant, thought she knew better, was very disrespectful towards her mom and Mr. Wonka, and didn't listen when he warned her not to chew that experimental gum, small wonder she didn't make it through the factory.
However, a lot of people pointed out that what happened to her seemed very extreme a "punishment" compared to her "sins." To be fair, I don't consider her punishment worse than all the others. While it was humiliating to blow up like a balloon in front of everyone and be rolled out of the room like a ball, some of the stuff that happened to the other kids is very embarrassing too. I mean, one kid nearly drowned in chocolate and got sucked up a tube to the Fudge Room; another fell down a garbage chute after being considered a "bad egg;" and one was shrunken down and had to be stretched like gum and fattened up to be normal size again. I mean, they are all pretty bad punishments, and fitting for each kid, because it was their excesses, arrogance, and selfishness that led them to their fates.
Yeah and one got the factory for his sins
shareThat was actually the biggest complaint Roald Dahl had about the '71 film. He didn't like the fact that they had Charlie and his grandpa do something bad, when in the book, Charlie did not do that thing with the Fizzy Lifting drinks. I think they wanted to show that Charlie and his grandpa weren't perfect, which led to the last confrontation in the story. Roald Dahl was so angry that he refused to have anything more to do with the film, and one time he randomly turned it on by accident on tv, and didn't realize what it was until he had watched the movie a bit.
I would like to point out that Charlie showed, despite not following the rules once, he wasn't willing to betray others for a quick reward, and by giving Wonka back the Everlasting Gobstopper, he proved he was still an honorable person.
Agreed..of those V girls, Veruca was the intended, & resultant bitch..a KAREN (coincidence that she and Violet both have the same inital lol?)
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