Which is sicker . . .

salo, why?

Salo, by far!

El Topo's sexual imagery is not nearly as blatant as that in Salo, nor is it as disturbing. The violence and sex in El Topo is almost poetic, while Salo's is incredibly realistic and raw.

Both are excellent films, but I found Salo to be MUCH harder to watch the El Topo.

It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Read De Sade and your ideas of moral will most definitely shift as he wrote about liberation and the sickness that is society. 120 Days of Sodom should be seen as a protest against a fascist state, or any society that pushes it's moral upon others.

And what would be "sick" about El Topo? Deformity or sex aren't repulsive, nor is violence aimed at those who deserve it.

salo! is much more disterbing

Salo is sicker and more disturbing by a country mile.

I don't know what the two have in common really. Salo's always going to be disturbing, you probably have something clinically wrong with you if you don't find the movie sicker.

Then, I guess it's possible, people would say the same about this, but half of them never saw Salo (or could watch all of it.)

For me, and I WILL be attacked for this, El Topo is the better movie. When you see when Salo was made, there was already a slew of Nazi-expoitation movies, and I sort of think Pasolini worked it as much as he was commenting on it. Jodorowsky reinvisioned 'the old west,' and it was in Mexico. The Wild Bunch ended up in Mexico, as does a lot of contemporary Westerns.

Salo is based on a book (which I've read,) based on people in France and put onto a Nazi regime that was not real... It just didn't happen. Whereas El Topo, like a lot of Westerns didn't happen, it actully (to me, anyway) has a ending that justifies that it didn't happen.

Salo speculates, big time. It could of happened, but it's based on other peoples ramblings, and, let's face it, you can see a Jess Franco movie like that.

With that, I gotta say, the whole ending of Salo seemed fake. The actors in the film weren't all that great either. I wasn't buying it, but that's my opinion. I respect the movie on a lot of its shock levels, but I can understand D'amato going to court for "Emanuelle In America" way more. The footage there was more realistic and disturbing. The stuff at the end of Salo= Fake.

El Topo is disturbing beause it's consistant with the genre at hand, and maintains surrealism, without providing an ending Clint Eastwood would be proud of.

Then, I'll say this for all of those people who want to stab be with a dirty plastic fork, I liked both of the films for what they were. I just don't think you should consider them together (though, I know, in the mind set of 'banned films' they are,) because you need to be in a different frame of mind to see either.

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what's wrong with you??

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