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Douglas Trumbull and Industrial Light and Magic


I was watching one of the extra features in "Silent Running". The extra is about how Trumbull envisioned films will be like in the future: very Imax-like experiences that rivals the rides at Disney.

Two things:

1) How come nobody in Hollywood embraced this idea? Too expensive? This would change films as we know it. I rather pay 10 bucks for this type of experience than a bland movie theater complex.

2) I found it ironic in that Lucas's Industrial Light and Magic became a very powerful monopoly in visual effects while Trumbull has disappeared. Trumbull helped revolutionized special effects (in fact, lot of the original technicians of ILM were part of Trumbull's team in 2001: A Space Odyssey.) Trumbull's ideas, according to my view, were much more advanced than ILM's. ILM's success over Trumbull is beyond me.

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Trumbull never really disappeared -- he was very much involved in the special effects industry, especially in the late-70s. After "Silent Running" was released, and was a critical success, several studios were after him to direct their projects (and, of course, to do the SFX). Around this time, he formed his own special effects company, Future General Corporation, in Marina del Rey, California. One by one, these big studio projects went away, and he went on to work on several projects in the mid-late '70s, including "Close Encounters" and "Star Trek: The Motion Picture," in addition to going on to do "Brainstorm" and the rides.

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I knew about Close Encounters and Star Trek (which really amazed me btw). However his name has disappeared since Brainstorm. I THINK he's doing Disney Park rides. I am not sure he's involved in Hollywood anymore. Would have any details on his latest gigs?

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Yeah, look at his directing resume. He makes all those really lame movies (rides) with shaking seats....Please.

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Doug Trumbull did the photographic effects for BLADE RUNNER. Nothing more needs to be said. He is THE SFX god.

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Trumbull realized in the mid-70s that the budgets were disappearing for the huge, soaring productions he had been enchanted with. Remember, this is a man whose first "major motion picture" was 2001. That's like earning a pilot's license and then flying the space shuttle three weeks later.

After the success of 2001, his dream was to photograph movies using VistaVision, a 70mm format he developed, which not only featured an image twice as large as conventional 35-mm film but ran at 60 frames per second, producing a hyper-realistic viewer experience. Remember, this was all in the 1970s. Though people met with him and expressed interest in his ideas, the deals never came, and Trumbull reverted to working at special effects to pay the bills.

Like most people on 2001, he had a very interesting relationship with Kubrick. Kubrick inserted a card in the credits of 2001 listing himself as the director/creator of the special effects, which was simply not true. "Approved by" would been correct -- the heavy lifting was done first by Wally Gentleman, then Con Pederson, Bruce Logan, Tom Howard, and finally Trumbull, who took over Gentleman's job after Gentleman quit the film. Trumbull and others, stung by Kubrick's highhandedness, had an edgy relationship with Kubrick thereafter.

He had some bad luck in "traditional" Hollywood (the death of Natalie Wood during the filming of "Brainstorm", for instance), and he decided to redirect his career into creating movie-like rides. Until recently his company, Berkshire RideFilm, exited quietly in the Berkshires (he remarked how ironic it was that one of the ships in Silent Running was named Berkshire.)

A brilliant but shy man, Trumbull is by all accounts a loner and ill at ease with crowds, not given to schmoozing, and in a business all about appearence and backslapping he was an odd fit. He wound up being appreciated more as the "SFX" guy he was rather than as the director/visionary he aspired to be.

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Trumbull's company is in Western Massachusetts? That's interesting!!!

Where did you get info on Trumbull's career? I'm a huge fan of his work but haven't read much on his life.

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Wow. Very informative and interesting response. Thanks for enlightening us. Who'd have thought that people used these boards to exchange actual *information*...??

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Great post, thank you.

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This is from wikipedia... True?
"In 1975 Trumbull turned down the offer to provide the effects for George Lucas' Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope"...

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Yes it's true but his protege John Dysktra stepped up to the plate... and well the rest is history.

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This is from wikipedia... True?
"In 1975 Trumbull turned down the offer to provide the effects for George Lucas' Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope"...


True, but he turned it down to do Close Encounters. Spielberg was coming off of Jaws and Lucas off of American Graffiti.

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What involvement did Trumbull have in
the making of the effects for "2001"?

So this is how liberty dies-with thunderous applause?

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I've always thought that ILM had a SFX monopoly, particularly in the 1980s, and they shut out Trumbull and other innovative effects teams especially when it came to awards season.

Cases in point. Trumbull's frankly brilliant work on Blade Runner lost out at the Oscars to E.T. 2010, with its most complete version of Jupiter ever seen on film lost out to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

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