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Are You Kidding About How These Characters Act?


Let's talk about the idiotic way these characters act in the face of extreme supernatural danger.

Helen's friend Virginia is obviously one of those people who acts irrationally upon their strongest emotion at the moment. After getting into some bizarre hissy fit with her best friend, Virginia is dead set (no pun intended) on getting off the train no matter where but it has to be immediately. So she jumps off the train in the middle of the countryside. Then she goes wandering into a creepy desolate ruins and sets up camp for the night, oblivious to the creepy going-ons there. Let me tell you that I wouldn't spend the night in those dangerous ruins even in the company of other guys and even if I was armed.

At the end of the movie, Helen has twisted her ankle but somehow almost makes it to a passing train which stops when the train engineer's son takes compassion on this woman in distress. The son jumps off the train and tries to help Helen, who suddenly seems to have lost the ability to walk, stumble or crawl and instead somehow becomes a ton of dead weight for the engineer's son who can't even pull her to safety. He doesn't think to hoist the woman on his shoulders. Helen's crying and struggles only make it harder for the young man to muscle her back to the train and they lose valuable time. All the while, the young man's father, the train engineer is too frightened to help but keeps yelling for them to hurry all the while the spectral Knights Templars zombies reach the train, dismount their ghostly horses and and even slowly walking, make it onto the train to slaughter everyone on board. The young man seems to have the strength of a 6-year old child while Helen looks as if she must weigh a ton because the young man can't even pull her onto the train. Her struggles only slow them down more.

I thought to myself, "This is absolutely ridiculous." But I remember, this is a 1971 Euro-sleaze horror movie. It was the prototype of the Euro-horror films to come. The blood and gore were minimal and there was no nudity. It could have actually be released on television, which it was later shown on late night movies. The rape scene of Helen by Pedro is not graphically shown. He grabs her and the scene later cuts to her smoothing back down her clothes. Her reaction to her own rape is unusual in the movie, very subdued and introspective as if she was contemplating the sexual intercourse she just experienced. Despite all my criticism, I have to agree with others who felt the Europeans were successful at generating suspense and terror with lots of dark atmosphere and dread. Oddly, "Tombs of the Blind Dead" does indeed do that. The Europeans have the advantage of centuries of history behind them in which to pull up spooky legends and myths to fabricate scary tales, ala Kolchak: The Night Stalker-style. Hammer Films of Great Britain was famous for the historical horror genre.

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I always thought the scene where they are trying to get her on the train and all she does is roll around on the ground was hilarious. And those knights were in no hurry either. I think she liked it.

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Yeah, the scene where Bette and the train conductor combined just can't seem to cross those five feet to the train was pretty ridiculous. Instead of picking her up and carrying her, or even just helping her to her feet, he grabs her wrist and yanks her. Definitely a comedy of errors.

You missed my favorite "WTF" moment, though: When Bette is warned by the police that the smugglers might come after her at her mannequin shop, does she warn her assistant? Nope! She calls her and says, "You're in terrible danger! ...but I'll tell you about that later. Bye!" What a great friend.

As to your last paragraph, I think you probably saw the English dub. The original Spanish version does depict the rape more graphically--Bette gets her shirt ripped open to expose her breasts, her panties are yanked off, and she's slapped several times when she struggles and screams. Her complete nonreaction afterward is puzzling, but I guess the zombies coming after her were a bit distracting.

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I was surprised to read that it was only rated PG (equivalent to PG-13 now) in the U.S. But then I realized that must have been the censored dubbed-English version.

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The scene where the train conductor's son tries to help her aboard annoyed the hell out of me! She managed to make it across a field with her twisted ankle, then gets ten feet from the train and collapses. I wanted him to grab her by her arm, hair or whatever and just drag her along!

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Agreed wholeheartedly, good horror elements, absolutely asinine characters.

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"I thought to myself, "This is absolutely ridiculous." But I remember, this is a 1971 Euro-sleaze horror movie."

Oh yeah? At least we don't have a reputation all over the world for being
"stupid".
As bad as this movie was... as for bad scripting, plot, and character stupidity I have seen A LOT of Hollywood movies that match and even way surpass those things.
You just spit in your own bowl then my friend.

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^ this

I'm an American, and while we have produced a fair share of good cinema, the current state we're in his wretched. 98 per cent of the films released in American theaters these days are crap.

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"The blood and gore were minimal and there was no nudity"

Maybe you should watch a halfway complete version before you judge a movie. There was quite some blood, gore and nudity in it.

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"and there was no nudity"

I'm really sorry to hear that you had to watch the horrible American version of the movie.

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